From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@gmail.com>
Cc: 24518@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24518: 25.2.50; dired-mark-extension with prefix arg fails
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:53:03 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8337kpcvdc.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1609242129170.8821@calancha-pc> (message from Tino Calancha on Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:30:11 +0900 (JST))
> From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:30:11 +0900 (JST)
> cc: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@gmail.com>, 24518@debbugs.gnu.org
>
>
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> > This loses the feature whereby the user could also specify the
> > character to use as the marker. Try "C-u 65 * . el RET" to see what
> > that does.
> That feature has never being available since `dired-x' was added to Emacs
> in 1994: the bug came from the very first commit. No user will miss
> that feature because nobody ever could use it.
??? The example I gave works with the unmodified sources. When used
as I've shown, there's no bug, and the command does what I expect. So
how can we be sure no one ever used it that way and won't miss this
optional behavior?
Can you explain your logic here?
> > While using the numeric code of a character sounds like a kludge, the
> > current implementation seems to do that deliberately. It might make
> > sense to use 'c' instead of 'P' there, I think, but your patch totally
> > changes the semantics of the prefix argument, so I'm not sure I can
> > endorse such a change.
> Sure, we could use 'c' and fix it. We could provide such feature not working
> in >20 years without nobody oppening a bug report. That sounds like a
> not useful feature at all.
It's an existing feature. I won't agree to removing features that
existed for the last 22 years without a very good reason. We have no
good means of finding out whether anyone out there uses this; if
someone does, removing this feature will most probably be a source of
aggravation for them.
> Believe me, using a prefix argument for unmark is very useful.
I believe you. But we will have to provide this feature without
breaking other existing features.
> For me this uniform behaviour between these two marking commands is
> a very nice thing.
I don't disagree. I just don't want to break existing features.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-24 12:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-23 14:13 bug#24518: 25.2.50; dired-mark-extension with prefix arg fails Tino Calancha
2016-09-24 11:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 12:30 ` Tino Calancha
2016-09-24 12:53 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-09-24 13:02 ` Tino Calancha
2016-09-24 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 13:15 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-09-24 13:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 14:06 ` Tino Calancha
2016-09-24 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 16:48 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-09-24 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 17:14 ` Tino Calancha
2016-09-24 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 17:49 ` Tino Calancha
2016-09-24 19:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-09-24 19:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-09-24 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 19:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-09-25 18:34 ` John Wiegley
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