From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24949: Command-line argument parsing: named daemons Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 05:39:10 +0200 Message-ID: <8337isgkkh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <05vavopehh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1479267629 29421 195.159.176.226 (16 Nov 2016 03:40:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24949@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 16 04:40:23 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c6r52-00056f-FK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 04:40:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50425 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c6r52-0007Qj-Gb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:40:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43402) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c6r4w-0007OQ-Dp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:40:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c6r4s-0006T5-Hi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:40:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:43295) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c6r4s-0006Sz-E9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:40:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c6r4s-0004DI-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:40:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24949 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24949-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24949.147926756416143 (code B ref 24949); Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24949) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2016 03:39:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58694 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c6r4G-0004CJ-9r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:39:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52325) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c6r4E-0004C6-In for 24949@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:39:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c6r45-00061S-7r for 24949@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:39:17 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43170) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c6r45-00061E-4X for 24949@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:39:13 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3826 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1c6r44-0000XW-25; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:39:12 -0500 In-reply-to: <05vavopehh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Glenn Morris on Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:25:46 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125745 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:25:46 -0500 > > Package: emacs > Severity: minor I think it should be wishlist. > This starts a daemon with a server named "FOO": > emacs -Q --daemon=FOO > > (This usage is documented in the "Initial Options" appendix of the > manual, but not mentioned in --help, or the man page.) > > > But this very similar form does not work (it starts an un-named daemon and > visits file "FOO"): > emacs -Q --daemon FOO > > Compare with something like "--chdir /tmp", where both forms (with and > without "=") work. I wouldn't expect it to work, since long options are documented to need the equals sign. > There is a 20-year old comment in emacs.c: > > Too bad we can't just use getopt for all of this, but we don't have > enough information to do it right. > > Perhaps standard argument parsing libraries have improved since then...? I think that comment is not about the parsing libraries, I think it's about the fact that submitting the information getopt needs is difficult or impossible in Emacs, given some of our options.