From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#34784: 26.1; Doc of pseudofunction key `' Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 21:48:39 +0200 Message-ID: <8336nx9mg8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <<<247b0874-cbb1-40e1-996f-5f931c142616@default>>> <<<83imwta3t0.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<>> <<<838sxp9u54.fsf@gnu.org>>> <> <<837ed99p36.fsf@gnu.org>> <3f5adb9a-4892-4d96-9bb4-1a9109007da8@default> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="154596"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 34784@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 08 20:50:21 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h2LVX-000e1n-OM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2019 20:50:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49100 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h2LVW-0000c9-Nh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:50:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39052) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h2LVK-0000Zg-U0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:50:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h2LVK-0006dO-8L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h2LVK-0006dJ-3x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h2LVJ-0002Oh-VJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:50:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 19:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34784 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 34784-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34784.15520745459138 (code B ref 34784); Fri, 08 Mar 2019 19:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 34784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2019 19:49:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36719 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h2LUP-0002NJ-1G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:49:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52692) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h2LUN-0002MV-6T for 34784@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:49:03 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45537) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h2LUH-00061s-2d; Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:48:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1033 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h2LUF-0002MX-6Z; Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:48:56 -0500 In-reply-to: <3f5adb9a-4892-4d96-9bb4-1a9109007da8@default> (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 8 Mar 2019 11:39:29 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:156165 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 11:39:29 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 34784@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > Anyway, back to the point of this bug report: How > > > > > is a user to know this info about `', > > > > > without digging into the code? > > > > > > > > Why should they? This is an internal matter between CUA and itself, a > > > > detail of its implementation. > > > > > > Huh? Why shouldn't they? > > > > Because it's an implementation detail. > > How so - what makes you think that? Because I've read the code. > > > and s?he wants to know how to invoke > > > `copy-region-as-kill' starting with prefix `C-c', > > > where is s?he supposed to turn for that info? > > > > To the source code, of course. > > To understand an external, user-visible, external, key > description from `C-h' a user needs to dig into the > source code? That's a sorry stance for Emacs help to > take, I think. No, it's just a (mildly unfortunate) consequence of the fact that internal details are visible in user-level commands.