From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36729: 27.0.50; Unclear total in directory listing Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 17:29:47 +0300 Message-ID: <8336izsbok.fsf@gnu.org> References: <048FD91B-CDA0-4444-8F6F-C5B2F5C595CD@acm.org> <83k1ceusn1.fsf@gnu.org> <68D3B8E0-26F0-474A-B76D-320E523DBDDC@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="137224"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 36729@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 21 16:31:07 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hpCrj-000Zat-PT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 16:31:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56214 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hpCri-0002OM-56 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33014) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hpCrf-0002OB-48 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:31:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hpCre-00055J-8B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:31:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:50431) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hpCre-00055E-58 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hpCre-00019K-1C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:31:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 14:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36729 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36729-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36729.15637194104334 (code B ref 36729); Sun, 21 Jul 2019 14:31:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36729) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2019 14:30:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59247 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hpCqo-00017p-7S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:30:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48732) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hpCqn-00016l-Fb for 36729@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:30:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39505) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hpCqh-0004kd-UY; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:30:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1055 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hpCqh-0008Tv-9F; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:30:03 -0400 In-reply-to: <68D3B8E0-26F0-474A-B76D-320E523DBDDC@acm.org> (message from Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= on Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:19:13 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:163520 Archived-At: > From: Mattias Engdegård > Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:19:13 +0200 > Cc: 36729@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman , > Drew Adams > > 19 juli 2019 kl. 14.16 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > > > > Feel free to suggest a clarification in the doc string of 'dired'. > > Frankly, I wouldn't know what to write. That the number should be ignored? We'd better remove it in the first place. (Your reaction seems to imply that I said something silly. Did I?) Your original report was about the unclear units of the value, so a useful clarification would be to tell something about those units. That is what I had in mind when I suggested a doc clarification. > Migrating to a fully built-in directory lister seems to be the only > sane way out, and it's considerably more work than I anticipated for > this little detail. We already have ls-lisp.el. It isn't used on platforms where 'ls' is available because AFAIK using 'ls' is faster.