From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3179: Entering Chinese "zero": add U+3007 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:00:19 +0300 Message-ID: <8336fugo4c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r5z8vgp1.fsf_-_@jidanni.org> <87my9wvf0r.fsf@jidanni.org> <87eezga3oy.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2xnb72s.fsf@gmail.com> <87r23fw1jk.fsf@gnus.org> <87tv8bawfr.fsf@gmail.com> <87pnizt59w.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8yjavbc.fsf@gmail.com> <874l0bt4h6.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8yih1ak.fsf@gnu.org> <87wod6pg6n.fsf@gnus.org> <837e56gwuw.fsf@gnu.org> <87k196b4m4.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="131377"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 3179@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?= , Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 15 15:01:46 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iKMSN-000Y0k-8O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 15:01:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44454 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKMSM-0005Uj-2t for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:01:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45736) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKMRp-0004zv-U2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:01:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKMRj-0001Bt-T1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:01:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKMRh-0001BT-RM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKMRh-0002xu-Lv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:01:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 13:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3179 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 3179-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3179.157114444311367 (code B ref 3179); Tue, 15 Oct 2019 13:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3179) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2019 13:00:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42915 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKMRN-0002xF-Ks for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:00:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36638) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKMRH-0002wz-TF for 3179@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:00:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47031) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKMRB-00016Q-Sd; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:00:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1969 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iKMR9-00056s-Vg; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:00:29 -0400 In-reply-to: <87k196b4m4.fsf@gmail.com> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?= on Tue, 15 Oct 2019 14:00:35 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:169379 Archived-At: > From: Štěpán Němec > Cc: 3179@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 14:00:35 +0200 > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:51:35 +0300 > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Ming Hua gave no reasoning, and Štěpán said U+3007 is the standard way > > to write ideographic zero. But why should we assume the intent here > > was to use the ideographic zero? > > The intent (to write ideographic zero, not white circle) is quite clear, > because that's what the key "ling2" means in Mandarin. As is usually the > case in Chinese, ling2 can also mean a lot of other things, but white > circle is not one of them. > > You can check with any Chinese or Japanese input method what suggestion > you get for that key (in Japanese that'd be れい/rei). I, for example, > use fcitx with mozc for Japanese and sunpinyin for Chinese, both of > which do the right thing. (I don't normally use Emacs input methods for > CJK languages, I find quail too limited for those and I suspect the same > will be the case for other serious users, which might also be the reason > for the lack of previous feedback.) > > That said, by all means, do check with Handa-san, I'm kind of curious > myself. Thanks, I've CC'ed him.