From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37774: 27.0.50; new :extend attribute broke visuals of all themes and other packages Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 14:41:20 +0300 Message-ID: <8336fsgbof.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bluhf7nz.fsf@gnu.org> <20191016111004.oialbyleokafpccz@Ergus> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="177804"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, 37774@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andrey Orst Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 16 13:42:22 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iKhh7-000k6l-RW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:42:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41362 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKhh6-0003nM-5C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:42:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44014) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKhgp-0003nE-7c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:42:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKhgo-0000Hc-7z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:42:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36510) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKhgo-0000HP-4X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:42:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKhgn-0005wj-RT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:42:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 37774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37774.157122610922835 (code B ref 37774); Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:42:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2019 11:41:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45331 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKhgb-0005wF-JU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:41:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34905) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKhgZ-0005w3-Nl for 37774@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:41:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40010) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKhgU-0000Bi-H1; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:41:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1754 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iKhgT-0008Jw-JN; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:41:42 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Andrey Orst on Wed, 16 Oct 2019 14:17:27 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:169439 Archived-At: > From: Andrey Orst > Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 14:17:27 +0300 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 37774@debbugs.gnu.org > > > So you are saying that you don't like the new appearance? The Subject > > says "broke visuals", which sounds like a much more serious problem. > > Well, "broke" may be wrong term, here, but lot of themes and packages crafted > in a way to display things like that, and now all of those things displayed accordingly > to a new setting, which in turn means that: > > a) package maintainers should update *all* their packages to look like before the change, and Are you saying that _all_ the faces will have to be modified to make them extended? IOW, are you saying that this feature is wrong with most or all of the faces? The assumption behind this feature was that the absolute majority of faces don't need to be extended. If you say this is wrong, can you show enough examples to back up that? > b) maybe Emacs could treat `nil` here as "do not affect", and specify symbols to set this to different > settings, like `:extend t` or `:extend 'EOL`, and `:extend 'noextend` to disable. Though, I do not > know how code was changed, so maybe there's no way to treat `nil` as "do not affect". Let's first find out how many faces would need to be modified to adapt to this feature, and only after that discuss the details of the solution(s).