From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38457: 27.0.50; dabbrev-expand regression due to message change Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 17:55:30 +0200 Message-ID: <8336dtcx3h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8736e3vve8.fsf@gmx.net> <8736e2coyv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2vujd0y.fsf@gnu.org> <87blspm0sm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837e3ckbem.fsf@gnu.org> <871rtjn0kt.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lfrrigj8.fsf@gnu.org> <87eexiqps5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lfrphp94.fsf@gnu.org> <87wob7g2jk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83k177ebs0.fsf@gnu.org> <87muc27prn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83tv6acgq5.fsf@gnu.org> <87r21eosfk.fsf@gnus.org> <83d0cxd2fv.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="92680"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 38457@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, rms@gnu.org To: juri@linkov.net Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 09 16:57:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ieLPK-000NxY-1D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:57:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41842 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ieLPI-0001Pp-Tp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:57:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57360) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ieLPD-0001Pi-Fc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:57:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ieLPC-0008Ch-IQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:57:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48337) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ieLPC-0008Cd-Fe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:57:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ieLPC-00078M-CI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:57:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 15:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38457 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38457-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38457.157590696727362 (code B ref 38457); Mon, 09 Dec 2019 15:57:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38457) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2019 15:56:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54310 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ieLOI-00077F-W0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:56:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48128) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ieLOE-00076i-Ep for 38457@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:56:04 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34745) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ieLO8-0006O4-MN; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:55:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3499 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ieLNy-0007EN-TE; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:55:47 -0500 In-reply-to: <83d0cxd2fv.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:00:04 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:173111 Archived-At: Here's one more problem with the new behavior of 'message': emacs -Q Evaluate: (defun my-mesage () (interactive) (message "my most important message")) (global-set-key [f5] 'my-mesage) (setq debug-on-message "important") Press F5, observe the debugger pop up, as expected. Type C-] to exit the debugger. Type M-x, then press F5 => the debugger doesn't start, although the message appears that should have triggered the debugger. The problem with dabbrev-expand and Tramp is similar, in that it stems from the fact that 'message' leaves the text in the echo area until the next keypress, whereas 'minibuffer-message' actively removes the message before returning (instead of letting someone else remove it when needed). I think the more general underlying problem here is that 'minibuffer-message' behaves very differently from 'message'. What we need is to keep the original behavior of 'message', but teach it not to overwrite the minibuffer contents under certain conditions.