From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44273: "total used in directory 19 available 5.2 GiB" Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 13:49:03 +0200 Message-ID: <83361waq8g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sg9zgchl.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <9FFBEBAF-FBB3-4AC9-950E-70B3927032F9@acm.org> <87h7qevdfc.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn52cr8x.fsf@gnu.org> <83eelicpee.fsf@gnu.org> <83zh45bt8q.fsf@gnu.org> <875z6sgqvh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83eelgb00t.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6w4lzh5.fsf@gnus.org> <837dr8aqog.fsf@gnu.org> <87sg9wkkk6.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21825"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, mattiase@acm.org, juri@linkov.net, stefankangas@gmail.com, jidanni@jidanni.org, 44273@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 30 12:50:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kYSvE-0005Zo-44 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 12:50:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47636 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kYSvD-0000YF-6n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:50:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40474) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kYSux-0000X7-Co for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:50:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44878) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kYSuw-00060M-GT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:50:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kYSuw-00037d-FQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:50:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 11:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44273 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix patch Original-Received: via spool by 44273-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44273.160405858611973 (code B ref 44273); Fri, 30 Oct 2020 11:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 44273) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2020 11:49:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kYSub-00036z-Pr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:49:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40274) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kYSuZ-00036i-Ep for 44273@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:49:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40754) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kYSuT-0005qq-GJ; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:49:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3397 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kYSuK-0001MA-05; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:49:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sg9wkkk6.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 30 Oct 2020 12:41:29 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:192068 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: juri@linkov.net, rms@gnu.org, mattiase@acm.org, jidanni@jidanni.org, > stefankangas@gmail.com, 44273@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 12:41:29 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> That's it's unknowable (or rather -- read the ls man page). > > > > Is that really a useful tooltip? > > Yes. > > But, like I said, it'd be better to remove the line. It takes up > valuable screen space for little use. Then I'm sorry, but I don't understand the logic here. 'ls' shows this "useless" information, and yet you don't think it should be removed from 'ls', and all the users of 'ls' evidently don't mind seeing it. But in Emacs the same information is somehow not useful enough to be shown? That doesn't add up.