From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53232: reopen 53232 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:37:31 +0200 Message-ID: <8335lmw9es.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ilui5l7h.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32323"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 53232@debbugs.gnu.org, john@yates-sheets.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 17 18:38:31 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Vxe-0008Eq-Ki for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:38:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38362 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Vxd-0006wc-Ni for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:38:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48470) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9VxC-0006vt-Eg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:38:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54956) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9VxC-0003Xt-5U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:38:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9VxC-0000Yu-4P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:38:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53232 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo notabug Original-Received: via spool by 53232-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53232.16424410672138 (code B ref 53232); Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:38:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53232) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2022 17:37:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Vwx-0000YQ-Dn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:37:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47656) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Vwv-0000YE-Uz for 53232@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:37:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=43602 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Vwq-0003Vh-DB; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:37:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=3I/Prxuby+rpM953MZY1IzCBplUwHPWmoG0OukJcViI=; b=Jw6yBcoHdNfO F0QnwxPVHmxjDupKBuZkVh4p4PHl4Rin5rCqsgcEBSzzwMMtBeDlyuuy2zxJzJHJDOBm/90QIzgKE m7RIgHeLR4msrwZ2nOd3vxxJNSmbbpeU6bBb+AERCPxOHST5Fzh4nL7qjp2q+yWhIwi7FWKqImWnC h7dERhG3YicPPT5Ydr3cumq4xWMVTa1eXvOdbCEceQs//kBCNISYvAfb8azBZKVP95hgnhOQfVkC5 zuH45xLjNuqsYn0o0j3xzK/PhpNmu+wnIMJ6S6xrdU1u9n2op1gtLxoPGOs7OfA+NFOsdsW/J6fe2 MujIuX1F2v33QNblR0Hr7Q==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4324 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Vwq-0000XG-Eg; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:37:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ilui5l7h.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:24:50 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224464 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:24:50 +0100 > Cc: Po Lu , 53232@debbugs.gnu.org > > > That said, the sub-optimal behavior is real: > > > > * early-init.el: > > > > (custom-set-variables > > '(default-frame-alist > > '((fullscreen . maximized) > > (background-color . "#000000") > > (foreground-color . "#ffffff"))) > > '(inhibit-startup-screen t) > > ) > > > > * init.el: > > > > [EMPTY] > > I'm unable to reproduce this with or without pgtk -- Emacs doesn't flash > the default background colour on startup, as far as I can tell. (This > is on Debian/bookworm with Gnome Shell, if that matters.) Isn't it true that to have the initial frame appear from the get-go with some non-default attributes, one must change the X resources? I have a vague recollection that this was always like that, and was never perceived as a problem. How do you want Emacs to perform the initialization without first creating a GUI frame, and how can it create the first GUI frame except with the default attributes?