From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54993: 28.1; Editing etc/NEWS on master with Emacs 28 signals an error Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:49:27 +0300 Message-ID: <8335iby288.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83czhfy583.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtgj7dxa.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31643"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 54993@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 17 21:30:54 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ngAbl-000823-LA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:30:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42084 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ngAbk-0006ct-8r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 15:30:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33332) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ng9yE-0004sh-Vd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:50:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43321) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ng9yE-0004m3-Kw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ng9yE-0004pJ-IC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:50:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54993 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 54993-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54993.165022139018530 (code B ref 54993); Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 54993) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2022 18:49:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37218 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ng9y2-0004oo-38 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:49:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39906) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ng9y0-0004ob-0O for 54993@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:49:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55560) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ng9xu-0004io-KT; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:49:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=laH6oXGUtQjj5E4TtF7wN/6HHIMwGhcw/atZ6YM0w98=; b=rmtQRvXqu0jA mHjW4yIOai78Se64W/kqj4udiofrSbzTm9T3N0eCsLge+OueKdBYrQQYWuvUGGNaiFqpbjMys+PXm R1Q+R3qK5V7v1yPRVIFGEXj+Npiq7OKFWAIH5S/kRdV9Gi/JtEUUdnOCZmqSYn33EAdy5EHlUbD6s /cFFRTQJZ56KZMr63rUTQWSGbIrDgPIKjz/YFApWgERgvo3hjAaM1DYsHhnVIhrzra/rCujEvsOQ9 jVNf9hFdR45rj2xXuoG1e7ydtn9jDDE4NaZIz8LxjY0QFn2zjH90lZR4GZBPTFeLUG2J0oMomB7AS qUkFyoeo5zht51ZWlkKspg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4656 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ng9xt-0007VC-Ey; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:49:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87mtgj7dxa.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 17 Apr 2022 20:38:57 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:230114 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: 54993@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 20:38:57 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I think a new mode that is only available in the development version > > should not be forced on all the developers, because not all of them > > use the latest-and-the-greatest code all the time while working on > > Emacs. > > Not using the trunk to edit files from the trunk sounds rather > error-prone. Indentation rules etc has changed. It is IMO unreasonable to expect everyone to use the latest development code. What about people who sync with Git once a month, for example? Or what about editing the file on a system that doesn't even have the master branch built? > > Please make it possible to edit NEWS conveniently with older versions > > of Emacs. > > You can still edit the file -- you just get an error message (which you > can ignore). No, I get Fundamental mode -- which means no highlighting of headings, not auto-filling, not Flyspell, etc. -- all I have in Outline mode is suddenly gone.