From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55842: 29.0.50; Using shorthand syntax in keymap-global-set Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 19:55:53 +0300 Message-ID: <8335gd3heu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86czfjlc4r.fsf@gnu.org> <874k0u55a1.fsf@gnus.org> <83czfh3jlh.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfodztcd.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16015"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: arash@gnu.org, 55842@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 09 19:28:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLx6-00040O-Hd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 19:28:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42078 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLx5-0006c8-KP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 13:28:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50094) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLSw-0002Pu-BZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53710) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLSw-0007tk-0p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLSv-0005he-Vz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:57:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 16:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55842 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 55842-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55842.165479376321840 (code B ref 55842); Thu, 09 Jun 2022 16:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jun 2022 16:56:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47607 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLRz-0005gC-Cp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36652) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLRx-0005fi-R0 for 55842@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLRs-0007k2-Do; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:55:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Xp8FU0HlgpTbkw2s8z/97YP5a7H6UIVyVH6k7T0N+9k=; b=n9DbTZVrGMIL 3n8rPmBXmiWfDVjorDDGic7IwVsHX6dUBxH+5GD9ZmbyHgH2JADTghHns6aBimKJdvzfLh3en2rEw XfUKuvEF5q9Hmskpn0BaoIrlnFubREhGAHEKsz+7fXppF4f38FW5m2rN4XZpxutdINAifBnlY5e3p b7JCmcCg5tmGVsM8PiT7IcFYngpHHGpUrstRHDgDjswRUmUBAgSEsUUzzxg9DzrKlZtLDx06TkNfE 2tQHY2pBqQdt+R4Xd+AE0tZuVKEiwSUnBdi8Nqxkdnx0qkoBLynj67lhQPJhPH9j8x5+AGpVJbX+7 AEynJJggCLusj+ovUf31/w==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4388 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLRr-0005iH-F3; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:55:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sfodztcd.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 09 Jun 2022 18:37:06 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:234128 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: arash@gnu.org, 55842@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 18:37:06 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Without thinking about this too much, my opinion is that if the new > > APIs are to be the replacement for the obsolete ones, they had better > > supported the same syntax, because I don't believe there's a single > > Emacs user out there who doesn't have some key bindings in their init > > files. If the syntax is incompatible, how can we ever convince the > > majority to switch? > > I'm not sure what you mean here. People that previously said > (local-set-key "\C-\M-i" ... ) can say (keymap-local-set "C-M-i" ...) > just fine. My point is that (keymap-local-set "\C-\M-i" ...) signals an error, and a weird one at that. I hoped that we could make the APIs fully compatible.