From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56682: feature/improved-locked-narrowing 9dee6df39c: Reworked locked narrowing. Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2023 08:43:23 +0200 Message-ID: <83357ozhx0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <166939872890.18950.12581667269687468681@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20221125175209.51166C004B6@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <6c9d91cffc1bfd801530@heytings.org> <6c9d91cffc394613f58a@heytings.org> <83eds0ksev.fsf@gnu.org> <8aadf0ddd54c85c8144a@heytings.org> <831qnhg3d9.fsf@gnu.org> <9757fbea37611e9c44b9@heytings.org> <83cz6yacxt.fsf@gnu.org> <6943e04e30e5a02a52e6@heytings.org> <838rhk5fy1.fsf@gnu.org> <6943e04e30a40824e107@heytings.org> <83k0143q37.fsf@gnu.org> <94821a0ef100102ac9e0@heytings.org> <83bkmdz04y.fsf@gnu.org> <43562d4dd9dffd81938f@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5372"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 56682@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 02 07:44:13 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pNTKP-0001Fe-8h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 07:44:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNTKF-0001nT-UC; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 01:44:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNTKE-0001nF-14 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 01:44:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNTKD-0008Qb-PJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 01:44:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pNTKD-0000t1-Jy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 01:44:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2023 06:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 56682 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 56682-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B56682.16753202113343 (code B ref 56682); Thu, 02 Feb 2023 06:44:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 56682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2023 06:43:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60438 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pNTJi-0000rr-Tm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 01:43:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52580) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pNTJh-0000rd-DL for 56682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 01:43:29 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNTJb-0008Md-8i; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 01:43:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ZtSWT7xhAB5/ooo2F7Zv9G3SrvxB2BaclUsLIy4QA8g=; b=J0PfXw+1g1BM dmU20PVbVW2dKWWBwKuFhGmqFI2YH5JcGIrlcT9aFE1Z8dvVj9y7BYC/98lP0yTw8g/A7rcMvzp7N MxM6hCphhWT7EshpmyKrcGSEO4tpnCWfFMy0gG9uiFbcW+IIKsLDktCi6/SWCIRnSxrjNzygiaqq3 m/qwfbkMkeVvUEbhxF12k5VOHdQ2nUwXF3TKGkqqqGrwBnxF+xbXGT+EFheRFZ04GnPXV8HAUIc7C /vOHOu8LbLW3Fr+zlH9B7x/8Zc4zuKLoG5b73iTz4bC70bVDbhNuy9pXxGCQ/XP6qF8IvpueWc+d1 WiiGvjSIpPBJveSqOE1L/w==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNTJa-0000C2-5f; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 01:43:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: <43562d4dd9dffd81938f@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Wed, 01 Feb 2023 22:42:56 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:254628 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2023 22:42:56 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > cc: 56682@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > > > Anyway, after thinking about this, I cannot agree to removing what we > > now have on emacs-29. It's too late for that, and I'm not prepared to > > delay the pretest for any significant time. So we will go into the > > pretest with what we have, and decide what to do with it in Emacs 29.2 > > and 30.1 according to how the chips will fall. > > Okay, if that's your decision. IMO just going back to what the code did > earlier is (very) safe, but I cannot do that without your approval. It might be safe or it might not be safe. We will not know for sure without some period of people using that. And I'm unwilling to delay the pretest by any significant time, sorry. > > I guess by suggesting to remove the code you were also telling me that > > you won't be fixing those documentation issues, which you promised to > > work on a month ago? If so, I guess this is one more buck that stops > > with me... > > Even if I think it's not TRT to do, I can still do that. Then please do. This is one of a small number of issues whose resolution delays the pretest ATM. Which is why I pinged you several times over the last month about it. TIA