* bug#13303: 24.2.91; gdb under emacs broken for break commands
@ 2012-12-29 4:04 Stephen Leake
2012-12-29 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Leake @ 2012-12-29 4:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 13303
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Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers
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Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and
the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe
starting from `emacs -Q':
create file hello.c:
#include <stdio.h>
int main (int argc, char *argv[])
{
printf ("hello world\n");
return 0;
} /* end main */
compile it, with gcc (Debian 4.7.2-4) 4.7.2:
gcc -g -o hello hello.c
run it:
./hello
debug it:
M-x gdb
Run gdb (like this): gdb -i=mi hello
at the gdb prompt, set a breakpoint:
break hello.c:4
try to set commands:
command 1
should see a prompt, terminate by 'end'. Instead, see:
(gdb) command 1
Type commands for breakpoint(s) 1, one per line.
End with a line saying just "end".
p argc
end
p argc
end
(gdb)
This was terminated by Menu | Signals | EOF
On Windows 7, the behavior is slightly different; the '>' prompt is
visible, but EOF crashes gdb.
In GNU Emacs 24.2.91.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10)
of 2012-12-28 on Shevek
Windowing system distributor `The Cygwin/X Project', version 11.0.11301000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (wheezy)
Important settings:
value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
default enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Debugger
Minor modes in effect:
shell-dirtrack-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent input:
w <backspace> SPC w o r l d " ) ; <return> { <S-backspace>
} C-x C-s C-x 2 M-x s h e l l <return> l s SPC * .
c <return> g c c SPC h e l l o w . <backspace> <backspace>
. c <return> <C-up> <return> . / h e l l o <return>
l s <return> . / a . o u t <return> C-x o <up> <left>
<left> <down> <left> <down> <left> <left> <left> <left>
\ n M-x r e v i e <backspace> <backspace> e r t - b
u f f e r <return> y e s <return> <down> <down> <down>
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right>
<right> \ n C-x C-s C-x o M-x g d b C-g g c c <up>
<down> <C-up> <C-up> <C-up> <C-up> <left> <left> <left>
<left> <left> <left> <left> - g SPC - o SPC h e l l
o SPC <return> . / h e l l o <return> r m SPC a . o
u t <return> M-x g d b <return> <backspace> <backspace>
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> h e l l o <return>
C-x p b r e a k SPC h e l l o w . <backspace> <backspace>
. c : C-x o C-x o 4 <return> c o m m a n d SPC 1 <return>
p SPC a r g c <return> e n d <return> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<menu-bar> <signals> <eof> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> M-x b u g - r e p <tab> <backspace> <backspace>
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
r e p o r t <tab> <return>
Recent messages:
History item: 1
hello.c changed on disk; really edit the buffer? (y, n, r or C-h) n
ask-user-about-supersession-threat: File changed on disk: /home/Projects/opentoken/org.opentoken/Build/linux_release/hello.c
Saving file /home/Projects/opentoken/org.opentoken/Build/linux_release/hello.c...
Wrote /home/Projects/opentoken/org.opentoken/Build/linux_release/hello.c
Quit
History item: 1
History item: 2
History item: 3
History item: 4
Load-path shadows:
None found.
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* bug#13303: 24.2.91; gdb under emacs broken for break commands
2012-12-29 4:04 bug#13303: 24.2.91; gdb under emacs broken for break commands Stephen Leake
@ 2012-12-29 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-29 12:31 ` Stephen Leake
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2012-12-29 8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stephen Leake; +Cc: 13303
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:04:21 -0500
> From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
>
> M-x gdb
> Run gdb (like this): gdb -i=mi hello
>
> at the gdb prompt, set a breakpoint:
> break hello.c:4
>
> try to set commands:
> command 1
>
> should see a prompt, terminate by 'end'. Instead, see:
> (gdb) command 1
> Type commands for breakpoint(s) 1, one per line.
> End with a line saying just "end".
Aren't the last 2 lines the prompt you expected to see? If not, what
prompt did you expect? What do you see when you run the same GDB
commands from the shell prompt?
> p argc
> end
> p argc
> end
> (gdb)
>
> This was terminated by Menu | Signals | EOF
Why did you send EOF? That command causes the debugger to quit, so
what's the purpose of sending it here?
> On Windows 7, the behavior is slightly different; the '>' prompt is
> visible, but EOF crashes gdb.
Not really a crash, at least on my XP SP3. It exits after reporting
some weird error message about stdin, which is expected, since Emacs
closes the debugger's stdin file descriptor. What kind of "crash" did
you see on Windows 7?
Anyway, the annoyance with no "> " prompt on Posix hosts is a known
problem with GDB versions older than 7.5; see bug#11279. You can work
around it by typing this command at the first GDB prompt:
(gdb) set interactive-mode off
GDB 7.5 fixed that problem, so upgrading your GDB will remove the need
to use the above work-around.
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* bug#13303: 24.2.91; gdb under emacs broken for break commands
2012-12-29 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2012-12-29 12:31 ` Stephen Leake
2012-12-29 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Leake @ 2012-12-29 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 13303
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> M-x gdb
>> Run gdb (like this): gdb -i=mi hello
Forgot to say the gdb version is 7.4.1-1
>> at the gdb prompt, set a breakpoint:
>> break hello.c:4
>>
>> try to set commands:
>> command 1
>>
>> should see a prompt, terminate by 'end'. Instead, see:
>> (gdb) command 1
>> Type commands for breakpoint(s) 1, one per line.
>> End with a line saying just "end".
>
> Aren't the last 2 lines the prompt you expected to see?
Yes, but each following line should be prompted with '>'.
>> p argc
>> end
>> p argc
>> end
>> (gdb)
>>
>> This was terminated by Menu | Signals | EOF
>
> Why did you send EOF?
Because "end" didn't work, and I was trying other things.
> That command causes the debugger to quit, so what's the purpose of
> sending it here?
It does cause it to quit under Windows in this situation, but not under
Debian.
>> On Windows 7, the behavior is slightly different; the '>' prompt is
>> visible, but EOF crashes gdb.
>
> Not really a crash, at least on my XP SP3. It exits after reporting
> some weird error message about stdin, which is expected, since Emacs
> closes the debugger's stdin file descriptor. What kind of "crash" did
> you see on Windows 7?
The same as yours; I agree "crash" is the wrong word.
> Anyway, the annoyance with no "> " prompt on Posix hosts is a known
> problem with GDB versions older than 7.5; see bug#11279. You can work
> around it by typing this command at the first GDB prompt:
>
> (gdb) set interactive-mode off
>
> GDB 7.5 fixed that problem, so upgrading your GDB will remove the need
> to use the above work-around.
That does restore the "> " prompt, but it also restores EOF behavior (it
now quits the debugger).
So the core problem remains: there is no way to terminate prompting
for new command lines, without quiting the debugger.
(I realize I did not state the main problem clearly in my initial
report).
I have not installed gdb 7.5; it's not in Debian testing (that's at gdb
7.4), and it's not supported for my main work, which has an AdaCore
support contract, with gdb 7.3.
--
-- Stephe
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* bug#13303: 24.2.91; gdb under emacs broken for break commands
2012-12-29 12:31 ` Stephen Leake
@ 2012-12-29 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-29 15:28 ` Stephen Leake
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2012-12-29 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stephen Leake; +Cc: 13303
> From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
> Cc: 13303@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 07:31:07 -0500
>
> > Anyway, the annoyance with no "> " prompt on Posix hosts is a known
> > problem with GDB versions older than 7.5; see bug#11279. You can work
> > around it by typing this command at the first GDB prompt:
> >
> > (gdb) set interactive-mode off
> >
> > GDB 7.5 fixed that problem, so upgrading your GDB will remove the need
> > to use the above work-around.
>
> That does restore the "> " prompt, but it also restores EOF behavior (it
> now quits the debugger).
I don't understand: you are supposed to end the breakpoint commands by
typing just "end" at the "> " prompt. It works for me with GDB 7.3
and Emacs 24.2.91 on GNU/Linux; if it doesn't work for you, please
tell what happens when you type "end" to end the breakpoint commands.
So what happens when sending EOF is not really relevant here, IMO.
(That command only works on GNU/Linux at the top level, not during
specification of breakpoint commands.)
> So the core problem remains: there is no way to terminate prompting
> for new command lines, without quiting the debugger.
See above: "end" works for me.
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* bug#13303: 24.2.91; gdb under emacs broken for break commands
2012-12-29 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2012-12-29 15:28 ` Stephen Leake
2012-12-29 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-29 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Leake @ 2012-12-29 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 13303
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
>> Cc: 13303@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 07:31:07 -0500
>>
>> > Anyway, the annoyance with no "> " prompt on Posix hosts is a known
>> > problem with GDB versions older than 7.5; see bug#11279. You can work
>> > around it by typing this command at the first GDB prompt:
>> >
>> > (gdb) set interactive-mode off
>> >
>> > GDB 7.5 fixed that problem, so upgrading your GDB will remove the need
>> > to use the above work-around.
>>
>> That does restore the "> " prompt, but it also restores EOF behavior (it
>> now quits the debugger).
>
> I don't understand: you are supposed to end the breakpoint commands by
> typing just "end" at the "> " prompt.
Yes, that is what I was expecting.
> It works for me with GDB 7.3 and Emacs 24.2.91 on GNU/Linux;
Sigh. I hate bugs that behave differently on different machines.
My GNU/Linux is Debian Testing; what are you using?
What Windows are you using? I'm on Windows 7; I could try on Windows XP.
> if it doesn't work for you, please tell what happens when you type
> "end" to end the breakpoint commands.
I get another prompt. (that's why there are two 'end's in the bug report).
> So what happens when sending EOF is not really relevant here, IMO.
Right.
Except that it is a workaround for the bug on Debian, if I don't
execute "set interactive-mode off". If it was also a workaround on
Windows, I could live with it.
>> So the core problem remains: there is no way to terminate prompting
>> for new command lines, without quiting the debugger.
>
> See above: "end" works for me.
Any suggestions for debugging this further?
I've confirmed that 'end' works as expected when running gdb from a bash
shell not under emacs.
'end' also works when running gdb in a bash shell under emacs. I guess
that's a mostly functional workaround.
'end' works with Emacs 23, running gdb with --annotate=3; it seems
to be the switch to -i=mi that causes the problem for me.
I tried reading the gdb interface elisp code; it's very dense, so I
didn't get very far, but I could try again. I did confirm that Emacs 24
no longer supports --annotate=3.
--
-- Stephe
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* bug#13303: 24.2.91; gdb under emacs broken for break commands
2012-12-29 15:28 ` Stephen Leake
@ 2012-12-29 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-29 18:40 ` Stephen Leake
2012-12-29 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2012-12-29 17:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stephen Leake; +Cc: 13303
> From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
> Cc: 13303@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:28:16 -0500
>
> > I don't understand: you are supposed to end the breakpoint commands by
> > typing just "end" at the "> " prompt.
>
> Yes, that is what I was expecting.
>
> > It works for me with GDB 7.3 and Emacs 24.2.91 on GNU/Linux;
>
> Sigh. I hate bugs that behave differently on different machines.
>
> My GNU/Linux is Debian Testing; what are you using?
It's Trisquel, the machine is fencepost.gnu.org. I think this is some
variety of Ubuntu, but I don't know enough about genealogy of Linux
distributions to tell. In any case, GDB 7.3 on that system was built
by me, it's not something that came with the OS.
> What Windows are you using? I'm on Windows 7; I could try on Windows XP.
It's XP SP3. Do you mean you don't get "(gdb)" after typing "end" on
Windows as well?
> Any suggestions for debugging this further?
Perhaps turn on gdb-enable-debug, and see what you get in the
gdb-debug-log variable.
> I've confirmed that 'end' works as expected when running gdb from a bash
> shell not under emacs.
>
> 'end' also works when running gdb in a bash shell under emacs. I guess
> that's a mostly functional workaround.
>
> 'end' works with Emacs 23, running gdb with --annotate=3; it seems
> to be the switch to -i=mi that causes the problem for me.
What if you run GDB from the shell, but using the -i=mi switch, and
set interactive-mode off? do you see the problem then?
> I did confirm that Emacs 24 no longer supports --annotate=3.
It does, if you invoke "M-x gud-gdb RET". Another work-around, I
guess. But I still would like to find out why it doesn't work for you
with -i=mi?
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* bug#13303: 24.2.91; gdb under emacs broken for break commands
2012-12-29 15:28 ` Stephen Leake
2012-12-29 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2012-12-29 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2012-12-29 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stephen Leake; +Cc: 13303
> From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
> Cc: 13303@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:28:16 -0500
>
> > It works for me with GDB 7.3 and Emacs 24.2.91 on GNU/Linux;
>
> Sigh. I hate bugs that behave differently on different machines.
Btw, does the problem happen for you in "emacs -Q"?
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* bug#13303: 24.2.91; gdb under emacs broken for break commands
2012-12-29 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2012-12-29 18:40 ` Stephen Leake
2012-12-29 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Leake @ 2012-12-29 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 13303
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> It's XP SP3. Do you mean you don't get "(gdb)" after typing "end" on
> Windows as well?
Correct.
>> Any suggestions for debugging this further?
>
> Perhaps turn on gdb-enable-debug, and see what you get in the
> gdb-debug-log variable.
That shows the failure:
gdb-debug-log
((recv . "~\">\"
") (mi-send . #("-interpreter-exec console \"end\"
" 27 30 (fontified t))) (recv . "~\">\"
") (mi-send . #("-interpreter-exec console \"p argc\"
" 27 33 (fontified t))) (recv . "~\">\"
") (mi-send . #("-interpreter-exec console \"command 1\"
" 27 36 (fontified t))) (recv . "16^error,msg=\"No registers.\"
(gdb)
17^done,threads=[]
(gdb)
This list is in reverse chronological order; the first ">" is the prompt
received after the "end".
>> I've confirmed that 'end' works as expected when running gdb from a bash
>> shell not under emacs.
>>
>> 'end' also works when running gdb in a bash shell under emacs. I guess
>> that's a mostly functional workaround.
>>
>> 'end' works with Emacs 23, running gdb with --annotate=3; it seems
>> to be the switch to -i=mi that causes the problem for me.
>
> What if you run GDB from the shell, but using the -i=mi switch, and
> set interactive-mode off? do you see the problem then?
The prompting does terminate with 'end' then. There is no output from gdb
during the break command prompting:
stephe@Shevek$ gdb -i=mi hello
=thread-group-added,id="i1"
~"GNU gdb (GDB) 7.4.1-debian\n"
~"Copyright (C) 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc.\n"
~"License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>\nThis is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.\nThere is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type \"show copying\"\nand \"show warranty\" for details.\n"
~"This GDB was configured as \"i486-linux-gnu\".\nFor bug reporting instructions, please see:\n"
~"<http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>...\n"
~"Reading symbols from /home/Projects/opentoken/org.opentoken/Build/linux_release/hello..."
~"done.\n"
(gdb)
set interactive off
&"set interactive off\n"
^done
(gdb)
break 4
&"break 4\n"
~"Breakpoint 1 at 0x8048415: file hello.c, line 4.\n"
=breakpoint-created,bkpt={number="1",type="breakpoint",disp="keep",enabled="y",addr="0x08048415",func="main",file="hello.c",fullname="/home/Projects/opentoken/org.opentoken/Build/linux_release/hello.c",line="4",times="0",original-location="hello.c:4"}
^done
(gdb)
command 1
&"command 1\n"
~">"
p argc
~">"
end
=breakpoint-modified,bkpt={number="1",type="breakpoint",disp="keep",enabled="y",addr="0x08048415",func="main",file="hello.c",fullname="/home/Projects/opentoken/org.opentoken/Build/linux_release/hello.c",line="4",times="0",script={"p argc"},original-location="hello.c:4"}
^done
(gdb)
quit
&"quit\n"
So that is the expected behavior
>> I did confirm that Emacs 24 no longer supports --annotate=3.
>
> It does, if you invoke "M-x gud-gdb RET". Another work-around, I
> guess.
That works; it actually runs "gdb --fullname"; that seems to be all I need.
> But I still would like to find out why it doesn't work for you with
> -i=mi?
I'd like to know as well; I assume support for --fullname/--annotate=3
will go away at some point.
Is there another (non-emacs) front-end that uses gdb -i=mi that I can
try, to see if it works there?
I found 'xxgdb' for Debian; it closes immediately after starting, with
an unhelpful error message. I'm running via ssh -X, that may be part of
the problem. Not available on Cygwin.
--
-- Stephe
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* bug#13303: 24.2.91; gdb under emacs broken for break commands
2012-12-29 18:40 ` Stephen Leake
@ 2012-12-29 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2012-12-29 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stephen Leake; +Cc: 13303
> From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
> Cc: 13303@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 13:40:02 -0500
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > It's XP SP3. Do you mean you don't get "(gdb)" after typing "end" on
> > Windows as well?
>
> Correct.
Is that with native Emacs and GDB, or with Cygwin builds thereof?
> > Perhaps turn on gdb-enable-debug, and see what you get in the
> > gdb-debug-log variable.
>
> That shows the failure:
>
> gdb-debug-log
> ((recv . "~\">\"
> ") (mi-send . #("-interpreter-exec console \"end\"
> " 27 30 (fontified t))) (recv . "~\">\"
> ") (mi-send . #("-interpreter-exec console \"p argc\"
> " 27 33 (fontified t))) (recv . "~\">\"
> ") (mi-send . #("-interpreter-exec console \"command 1\"
> " 27 36 (fontified t))) (recv . "16^error,msg=\"No registers.\"
> (gdb)
> 17^done,threads=[]
> (gdb)
What can I say? it's strange. I even tried with GDB 7.4.1 on Windows
(don't have it on GNU/Linux), and after "set interactive-mode off",
"end" ends the breakpoint commands and gets me back to the GDB prompt.
> > But I still would like to find out why it doesn't work for you with
> > -i=mi?
>
> I'd like to know as well; I assume support for --fullname/--annotate=3
> will go away at some point.
Maybe someone else could chime in and suggest ideas.
> Is there another (non-emacs) front-end that uses gdb -i=mi that I can
> try, to see if it works there?
http://sourceware.org/gdb/wiki/GDB%20Front%20Ends lists a few.
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2012-12-29 12:31 ` Stephen Leake
2012-12-29 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-29 15:28 ` Stephen Leake
2012-12-29 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-29 18:40 ` Stephen Leake
2012-12-29 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-29 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
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