From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15984: 24.3; Problem with combining characters in attachment filename Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:00:15 +0200 Message-ID: <831u1z8twg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83iovc8eaq.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9gn8yoz.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385715672 6310 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2013 09:01:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15984@debbugs.gnu.org To: nisse@lysator.liu.se (Niels =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6ller?=) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 29 10:01:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VmJwp-00051v-VZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:01:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46190 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmJwp-0001QW-Fd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 04:01:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39270) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmJwi-0001QD-6l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 04:01:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmJwd-00049f-3H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 04:01:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35703) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmJwc-00049b-Vy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 04:01:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VmJwb-0006xK-NN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 04:01:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15984 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15984-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15984.138571563826704 (code B ref 15984); Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15984) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2013 09:00:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VmJwC-0006wd-OQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 04:00:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:34328) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VmJw8-0006wL-2V for 15984@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 04:00:33 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MX000400P0IK500@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15984@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:00:25 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MX0004FXP0PCI90@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:00:25 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:81082 Archived-At: > From: nisse@lysator.liu.se (Niels Möller) > Cc: 15984@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:49:15 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> (Digression: I think text-processor supporting unicode really ought to > >> represent "characters" as interned strings of unicode (or utf-8) code > >> points. > > > > That's what Emacs does since v23.1 (except that we extend the range of > > Unicode codepoints to represent some non-unified characters and binary > > raw bytes). > > Good! I thought emacs used a simpler mapping character <-> a single > unicode value. Maybe I misunderstood you: what's the difference between those two alternatives? > > > glyphs should usually be associated only with the normalized form. > > > > Here I disagree. There are definitely situations where this is not > > TRT, and they aren't "unusual". > > Ok. What's the typical use case where you'd want to have different > glyphs for "Å", "A" + ring above combining char, and Ångström unit sign? MacOS file names, I think. Also, display in "C-u C-x =", which is very important for understanding and debugging Emacs display features. > > Thanks. I'd also need instructions to display that message in Gnus > > after saving it to a file, starting with "emacs -Q", as I don't have > > Gnus set up and don't use it in my day-to-day work. > > I'm also not sure how to do that, but I'll try to figure out. Thanks.