From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 17:28:41 +0200 Message-ID: <831u0qz9li.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> <52C0E734.4090403@cs.ucla.edu> <83sita1cbw.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4EFB1.3080500@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388676621 12532 80.91.229.3 (2 Jan 2014 15:30:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 15:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: grfz@gmx.de, 16292@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 02 16:30:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VykDv-0004MH-R3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:30:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45678 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VykDv-0001XV-CM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:30:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48907) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VykDo-0001W3-7K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:30:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VykDj-00073Q-Ge for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:30:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44054) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VykDj-00072s-Ds for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:30:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VykDi-0006Px-Eg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:30:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 15:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16292 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16292-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16292.138867654524548 (code B ref 16292); Thu, 02 Jan 2014 15:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16292) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2014 15:29:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58070 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VykCn-0006Ns-9N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:29:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:46723) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VykCl-0006Ng-7X for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:29:04 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYS00H005KUV300@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 17:28:45 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYS00H8K5NUTW20@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 17:28:42 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <52C4EFB1.3080500@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82831 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2014 20:48:49 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: grfz@gmx.de, 16292@debbugs.gnu.org > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > There's no good reason to link the input document encoding > > to the kind of symbols used in the output. > > I agree. That's another bug report I suppose I should file with bug-texinfo, > I suppose. Yes. Although the makeinfo maintainer doesn't seem to share this view. > By the way, this isn't something that began with my changes in March, > as Eli suggested earlier. Emacs 24.3 shipped with some .info files in > UTF-8 and others in Latin-1, which means that in pretty much any locale, > standalone 'info' will misbehave on some Emacs info file or another. > The problem goes back at least to Emacs 23.1 in 2009 (that's as far back > as I cared to check). That's true, but until Texinfo 5 came and changed the effect of @documentencoding, this hardly mattered, as the non-ASCII characters in those few manuals (I found 4) were extremely rare, something like 2 to 5 per manual. The important thing (to me) is to have the markup, quotes, and arrows displayable, because that's the bulk of the manual.