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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 19395@debbugs.gnu.org, malsburg@posteo.de
Subject: bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:36:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831tnus2gv.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54958CE0.9060105@gmx.at>

> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 15:51:12 +0100
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> CC: malsburg@posteo.de, 19395@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  >> (with-selected-frame some-frame
>  >>     (with-current-buffer a-buffer-not-displayed-on-some-frame
>  >>       ...
>  >
>  > Which makes it "displayed", as far as Emacs is concerned, right?
> 
> You mean as far as the Emacs display engine is concerned, right?  But
> the caller of `face-font' doesn't know that the display engine operates
> on the current buffer regardless of whether it is displayed or not.

She doesn't need to know: the effect doesn't depend on that.

> (1) When two characters have the same face they are identic in their
>      appearance on screen.
> 
> (2) When two characters have a different appearance on screen they have
>      different faces.

I think YES to both, assuming both characters are on the same frame.
If not, then (2) might be false.

> For me it's difficult to discriminate the usage of the term "face" when
> programming Elisp from the usage of the term "face" when Emacs displays
> a character.

I was primarily talking about the latter.  But the different is small,
if it exists at all.

>  > face-remapping-alist is applied _after_ the frame-specific face is
>  > retrieved.  Does that answer your problem?
> 
> What means "applied"?  Is it merged or does it replace the
> frame-specific face?

It replaces the original frame-specific face.

>  >> IIUC face remapping maps a default face (which may be frame specific or
>  >> not) via a scaling value (which may be buffer local or not) to another
>  >> face whose width I eventually want to retrieve via `face-font'.  Does
>  >> the buffer/frame/window relationship affect that value and if so how?
>  >
>  > AFAIK, only the buffer matters, since face-remapping-alist is
>  > buffer-local.
> 
> It's doc-string says
> 
>    If this variable is made buffer-local, the face remapping takes effect
>    only in that buffer.

OK, _if_ face-remapping-alist is buffer-local.





  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-20 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-16 20:01 bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-16 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-16 20:36   ` Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-16 20:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-16 23:12       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-17  3:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-17 14:16           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-17 15:47             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-17 21:31               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-17 22:57                 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-18  3:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-18 14:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-18 15:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-20 10:09                       ` martin rudalics
2014-12-20 11:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-17  3:46         ` Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-17 15:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-17 21:34             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-18  3:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-18 14:25                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-18 15:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-17  3:28       ` Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-17 15:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-17 17:18           ` Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-17 18:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-17 18:48               ` Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-17 19:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-18  3:36                   ` Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-18 16:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-19 17:09                       ` martin rudalics
2014-12-19 19:35                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-20 10:09                           ` martin rudalics
2014-12-20 10:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-20 11:42                               ` martin rudalics
2014-12-20 12:45                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-20 14:51                                   ` martin rudalics
2014-12-20 16:36                                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-12-20 17:50                                       ` martin rudalics
2014-12-20 18:16                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-20 18:58                                           ` martin rudalics
2014-12-20 19:52                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-21 12:14                                               ` Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-21 16:43                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-20 14:51                       ` Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-20 15:06                         ` martin rudalics
2014-12-20 15:21                           ` Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-20 16:03                             ` martin rudalics
2014-12-20 16:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-20 15:45                           ` Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-20 16:38                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-20 17:51                             ` martin rudalics
2014-12-20 18:19                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-20 16:31                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-21 22:04                           ` Titus von der Malsburg
2014-12-22 16:00                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-29 13:14                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-02 21:41                                 ` Jim Porter
     [not found]                                 ` <a54d35b0-7ed6-374c-2a14-e7d97cf6c0a2@gmail.com>
2022-06-03  3:21                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-18 17:16         ` Eli Zaretskii

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