From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21140: 25.0.50; Isearch "char-fold" by default Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 19:43:55 +0300 Message-ID: <831tfqykvo.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86vbd5n27r.fsf@example.com> <873809z0w0.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83si89xb68.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9only85.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1438188334 11093 80.91.229.3 (29 Jul 2015 16:45:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 16:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sva-news@mygooglest.com, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, 21140@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 29 18:45:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKUTl-0002Qk-Go for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 18:45:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36094 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKUTk-00019k-IT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:45:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57972) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKUTc-00017M-Aj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:45:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKUTW-00037I-K9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:45:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60638) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKUTW-00036g-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKUTV-0003S9-TB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:45:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 16:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21140 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21140-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21140.143818824713198 (code B ref 21140); Wed, 29 Jul 2015 16:45:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21140) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2015 16:44:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33851 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKUSc-0003Qm-J9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:44:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:33118) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKUSZ-0003Qb-Ef for 21140@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NS900200D2LRN00@mtaout29.012.net.il> for 21140@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 19:43:40 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NS900ITSD4SKGB0@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 19:43:40 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87h9only85.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105216 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, sva-news@mygooglest.com, 21140@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 01:21:45 +0300 > > >> In case of case-folding the parameter names used in isearch messages are: > >> “case-sensitive” and “case-insensitive”. > >> > >> By analogy, can we use: “char-sensitive” and “char-insensitive”? > > > > I doubt that will be clear to users, since no one else calls this by > > that name. "Folding" is the accepted terminology, though perhaps > > "char-fold" is also slightly unclear. How about just "Fold"? > > “Fold” is too broad. “Char-fold” is more concise and seems is > the accepted terminology, e.g. > https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/character-folding.html > http://userguide.icu-project.org/transforms/casemappings "Character folding" or simply "folding" is accepted terminology. But "char-fold" is not, it's a confusing shorthand. That's why I suggested "fold", which is accepted terminology and is short. > Or does Unicode.org have a better name? I can find only this draft > http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr30/tr30-4.html Unicode uses "folding", see http://unicode.org/reports/tr10/#Collation_Folding.