From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22058: 25.1.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 20:45:40 +0200 Message-ID: <831tb6knxn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <929593b8-ad63-4b4a-9587-1eef6e821cc6@default> <3505c131-e8ab-4f86-8828-b378bc9dac47@default> <222e11d1-95f0-4ade-8f86-18f034eabb1e@default> <83h9k2kwsa.fsf@gnu.org> <32860321-e9f0-4057-9e4a-b2be4aa5dc82@default> <8337vmkul2.fsf@gnu.org> <0c8ebfe5-4cac-417f-b517-3c9ce502b6a3@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448995709 22590 80.91.229.3 (1 Dec 2015 18:48:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 18:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, 22058@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 01 19:48:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a3pyK-00076Y-Uu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 19:48:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54404 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3pyK-0003jU-4L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:48:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43662) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3pyB-0003bn-7p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:48:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3py7-0002yK-5a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:48:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45638) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3py7-0002yF-2T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:48:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a3py7-0006EY-0x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:48:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 18:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22058 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 22058-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22058.144899563923864 (code B ref 22058); Tue, 01 Dec 2015 18:48:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22058) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2015 18:47:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35345 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a3pxO-0006Cp-R3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:47:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:42586) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a3px4-0006Be-3X for 22058@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:47:17 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NYO00300ZYWVS00@mtaout29.012.net.il> for 22058@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 20:45:26 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NYP004I703P1R00@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 20:45:25 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <0c8ebfe5-4cac-417f-b517-3c9ce502b6a3@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:109516 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 08:56:42 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, lekktu@gmail.com, 22058@debbugs.gnu.org > > One question is whether I need to use 7.10 for the backtraces > that you are requesting or I can use the "outdated version > 7.6.1" that dispenses with needing to install python (which I > do not need). I have no idea. The binary I pointed to is guaranteed to work (I use it all the time). > In the latter case, perhaps the README should say where to get > 7.6.1? The text says only "The MinGW site offers it", with no > info about where that is (AFAICT). I have no control on what MinGW maintainers do, or where they put their ports. Google will surely find the MinGW site. The ezwinports is not supposed to be a guide to every port out there. > Eventually, searching each of the directories at > http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/MinGW/, I found gdb: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/MinGW/Extension/gdb/. > > Should I use that, or must I really install python, just > to be able to give you an Emacs backtrace from gdb? Once again, I can vouch for my build of GDB. I don't know about the one from MinGW, as I don't use it. You can try if you want to. > (This is already taking longer than I really want to devote > to this, FWIW.) Sorry about that. But it certainly also takes _my_ time to look at your backtraces each time, trying to figure out what can we learn from them. We are both volunteers, aren't we? > > > (Why doesn't the gdb binary include everything it needs?) > > > > Because I don't want to distribute Python, including its sources. > > GDB 7.10 cannot be used without python? Why is that? Because some features don't work without Python, and I want the full functionality at my fingertips.