From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25107: Acknowledgement (Patches to clean up ispell.el) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2016 18:37:03 +0200 Message-ID: <831sxlj9ow.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8360mxjbti.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481042341 20518 195.159.176.226 (6 Dec 2016 16:39:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 16:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25107@debbugs.gnu.org To: Reuben Thomas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 06 17:38:56 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEIla-0004C8-8v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 17:38:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33161 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEIle-0003Lg-93 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:38:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55699) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEIjq-0001z5-A9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:37:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEIjm-0006GM-Gg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:37:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:43029) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEIjm-0006GH-Cx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:37:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEIjm-0001Lw-7Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:37:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2016 16:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25107 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 25107-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25107.14810422145184 (code B ref 25107); Tue, 06 Dec 2016 16:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25107) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2016 16:36:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58428 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEIjd-0001LY-Sb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:36:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36359) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEIjc-0001LM-UR for 25107@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:36:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEIjS-00068I-VG for 25107@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:36:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37023) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEIjS-00068C-SQ; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:36:42 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4574 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cEIjS-00058Z-3o; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:36:42 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Reuben Thomas on Tue, 6 Dec 2016 16:20:24 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:126563 Archived-At: > From: Reuben Thomas > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 16:20:24 +0000 > Cc: 25107@debbugs.gnu.org > > Why is it useful to remove this information? The documentation of the > spell-checkers themselves leaves a lot to be desired, so asking the > users to go consult it might not be appreciated. I'd rather add here > the missing info about the other spellers. > > ​Emacs is enough for us to document without trying to document third-party software. Since all the software > involved is free, better to fix it directly, and benefit all its users, rather than take on the burden of documenting > it in order only to benefit Emacs users. I agree with the general point, but in this case we are talking about mentioning a small number of file names in the doc string. Doesn't seem like a burden to me, and whoever put that information there probably didn't see it as such, either. > > * lisp/textmodes/ispell.el (ispell-version): Since ispell.el is now > > firmly part of Emacs, and the version hasn’t changed since 2003, and > > isn’t used anywhere, remove it. 3rd-party code can better use the > > Emacs version, or feature or function checks. > > I agree, but instead of removing the information, how about replacing > it with the Emacs version? Something like "ispell.el from Emacs %s". > > The context is an interactive call to ispell-check-version, which reports what version of the spell-checker is > being used. If the user wishes to know what version of Emacs they are running, they can check > emacs-version. I was thinking about someone using the result to report the version they have, e.g. as part of a bug report.