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* bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode
@ 2017-03-06  2:02 Keith David Bershatsky
  2017-03-06 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
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  0 siblings, 4 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Keith David Bershatsky @ 2017-03-06  2:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 25992

When transient-mark-mode is turned off, perform-replace leaves mark-active set to `t`.

Step 1:  Launch emacs -q

Step 2:  Turn off transient-mark-mode.  (transient-mark-mode -1)

Step 3:  Evaluate mark-active and verify it is `nil`.

Step 4:  Run a simple perform-replace such as:  (replace-regexp ";" "@" nil 1 2)

Step 5:  Evaluate mark-active and see that it is now set `t`.

The desired behavior is to leave `mark-active` set to `nil` if it was previously set to `nil`.

I fixed this in my own setup with a very simple test at the outset of perform-replace to see whether mark-active was set to `t` at the outset and then turn it off at the end of the function if it was not previously active.

Thanks,

Keith





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* bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode
  2017-03-06  2:02 bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode Keith David Bershatsky
@ 2017-03-06 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2017-03-06 17:06 ` Keith David Bershatsky
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-03-06 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keith David Bershatsky; +Cc: 25992

> Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:02:23 -0800
> From: Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
> 
> When transient-mark-mode is turned off, perform-replace leaves mark-active set to `t`.
> 
> Step 1:  Launch emacs -q
> 
> Step 2:  Turn off transient-mark-mode.  (transient-mark-mode -1)
> 
> Step 3:  Evaluate mark-active and verify it is `nil`.
> 
> Step 4:  Run a simple perform-replace such as:  (replace-regexp ";" "@" nil 1 2)
> 
> Step 5:  Evaluate mark-active and see that it is now set `t`.
> 
> The desired behavior is to leave `mark-active` set to `nil` if it was previously set to `nil`.

I'm not sure why you worry about mark-active when transient-mark-mode
is off: AFAIK that flag is only meaningful when transient-mark-mode is
on.  Can you describe your use case?

Anyway, the reason for activating the mark is that replace-regexp
calls push-mark, which always activates the mark when
transient-mark-mode is turned off.  Not sure why we do that, but the
code which does that has been doing it for the last 24 years, so I
don't think we should change that now, unless we have a _very_ good
reason.

Thanks.





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* bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode
  2017-03-06  2:02 bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode Keith David Bershatsky
  2017-03-06 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2017-03-06 17:06 ` Keith David Bershatsky
  2017-03-06 18:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2017-03-07  5:55 ` Keith David Bershatsky
  2017-03-07 17:32 ` Keith David Bershatsky
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Keith David Bershatsky @ 2017-03-06 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 25992

Thank you for taking a look at issue #25992.

In a custom test to determine whether the region is active, I had been testing mark-active prior to using (region-beginning) and/or (region-end) to avoid trowing an error "The mark is not set now, so there is no region".  When the following is true `(and mark-active (= (region-beginning) (region-end)))`, my custom function should return nil.

Keith

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DATE:  Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:26:53 +0200
FROM:  Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
>  transient-mark-mode
> 
> > Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:02:23 -0800
> > From: Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
> > 
> > When transient-mark-mode is turned off, perform-replace leaves mark-active set to `t`.
> > 
> > Step 1:  Launch emacs -q
> > 
> > Step 2:  Turn off transient-mark-mode.  (transient-mark-mode -1)
> > 
> > Step 3:  Evaluate mark-active and verify it is `nil`.
> > 
> > Step 4:  Run a simple perform-replace such as:  (replace-regexp ";" "@" nil 1 2)
> > 
> > Step 5:  Evaluate mark-active and see that it is now set `t`.
> > 
> > The desired behavior is to leave `mark-active` set to `nil` if it was previously set to `nil`.
> 
> I'm not sure why you worry about mark-active when transient-mark-mode
> is off: AFAIK that flag is only meaningful when transient-mark-mode is
> on.  Can you describe your use case?
> 
> Anyway, the reason for activating the mark is that replace-regexp
> calls push-mark, which always activates the mark when
> transient-mark-mode is turned off.  Not sure why we do that, but the
> code which does that has been doing it for the last 24 years, so I
> don't think we should change that now, unless we have a _very_ good
> reason.
> 
> Thanks.





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* bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode
  2017-03-06 17:06 ` Keith David Bershatsky
@ 2017-03-06 18:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-03-06 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keith David Bershatsky; +Cc: 25992

> Date:  Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:06:56 -0800
> From:  Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
> Cc:  25992@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> In a custom test to determine whether the region is active, I had been testing mark-active prior to using (region-beginning) and/or (region-end) to avoid trowing an error "The mark is not set now, so there is no region".  When the following is true `(and mark-active (= (region-beginning) (region-end)))`, my custom function should return nil.

Why can't you just check whether the function 'mark' returns nil?





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* bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode
  2017-03-06  2:02 bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode Keith David Bershatsky
  2017-03-06 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2017-03-06 17:06 ` Keith David Bershatsky
@ 2017-03-07  5:55 ` Keith David Bershatsky
  2017-03-07 15:37   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2017-03-07 17:32 ` Keith David Bershatsky
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Keith David Bershatsky @ 2017-03-07  5:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 25992

Thank you very much for the suggestion to check 'mark' prior to calling either 'region-beginning' or 'region-end', as an alternative to testing the variable 'mark-active'.

Keith

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DATE:  Mon, 06 Mar 2017 20:45:32 +0200
FROM:  Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
>  transient-mark-mode
> 
> > Date:  Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:06:56 -0800
> > From:  Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
> > Cc:  25992@debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > In a custom test to determine whether the region is active, I had been testing mark-active prior to using (region-beginning) and/or (region-end) to avoid trowing an error "The mark is not set now, so there is no region".  When the following is true `(and mark-active (= (region-beginning) (region-end)))`, my custom function should return nil.
> 
> Why can't you just check whether the function 'mark' returns nil?





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* bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode
  2017-03-07  5:55 ` Keith David Bershatsky
@ 2017-03-07 15:37   ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-03-07 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keith David Bershatsky; +Cc: 25992

> Date:  Mon, 06 Mar 2017 21:55:47 -0800
> From:  Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
> Cc:  25992@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Thank you very much for the suggestion to check 'mark' prior to calling either 'region-beginning' or 'region-end', as an alternative to testing the variable 'mark-active'.

So can this bug be closed now?





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* bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode
  2017-03-06  2:02 bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode Keith David Bershatsky
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2017-03-07  5:55 ` Keith David Bershatsky
@ 2017-03-07 17:32 ` Keith David Bershatsky
  2017-03-07 19:25   ` Eli Zaretskii
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Keith David Bershatsky @ 2017-03-07 17:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 25992

Yes, thank you, please close out bug#25992.

Keith

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DATE:  Tue, 07 Mar 2017 17:37:17 +0200
FROM:  Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
>  transient-mark-mode
> 
> > Date:  Mon, 06 Mar 2017 21:55:47 -0800
> > From:  Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
> > Cc:  25992@debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > Thank you very much for the suggestion to check 'mark' prior to calling either 'region-beginning' or 'region-end', as an alternative to testing the variable 'mark-active'.
> 
> So can this bug be closed now?





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* bug#25992: perform-replace leaves mark-active when not transient-mark-mode
  2017-03-07 17:32 ` Keith David Bershatsky
@ 2017-03-07 19:25   ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-03-07 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keith David Bershatsky; +Cc: 25992-done

> Date:  Tue, 07 Mar 2017 09:32:58 -0800
> From:  Keith David Bershatsky <esq@lawlist.com>
> Cc:  25992@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Yes, thank you, please close out bug#25992.

Done.





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