From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27830: 26.0.50; Left fringe gets truncated by a pixel in window not sharing that edge with frame Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2017 11:24:03 +0300 Message-ID: <831smfv00s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <59784A68.1080409@gmx.at> <59D4A41F.7080603@gmx.at> <59D5E920.2070509@gmx.at> <838tgqx9q0.fsf@gnu.org> <59D73C1F.5010500@gmx.at> <83shewvcbv.fsf@gnu.org> <59D88B7A.9040202@gmx.at> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1507364716 17228 195.159.176.226 (7 Oct 2017 08:25:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 08:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 27830@debbugs.gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 07 10:25:08 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e0kPy-0003Ac-FP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 10:25:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48867 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e0kQ5-0007N7-R7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:25:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40956) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e0kPz-0007L9-D8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e0kPw-0007sK-7Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:25:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45059) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e0kPw-0007sB-39 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e0kPt-0007Qg-W1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:25:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2017 08:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27830 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 27830-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27830.150736466428505 (code B ref 27830); Sat, 07 Oct 2017 08:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 27830) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2017 08:24:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53740 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e0kPI-0007Ph-JI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:24:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49818) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e0kPG-0007PO-VL for 27830@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:24:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e0kPA-0007Jl-NO for 27830@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:24:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44449) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e0kP3-0007HJ-PH; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:24:09 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2262 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1e0kP3-0008Dm-60; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:24:09 -0400 In-reply-to: <59D88B7A.9040202@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Sat, 07 Oct 2017 10:08:26 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:138032 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2017 10:08:26 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > CC: kaushal.modi@gmail.com, 27830@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru > > > This is OK for PROBLEMS, but maybe it should be in the user manual > > instead? > > It's probably too internal in order to be mentioned in PROBLEMS. But is > the user manual really a suitable place for this? I understand your > concerns but, for example, the last paragraph of section "14.14 Window > Fringes" appears to me merely distracting for people who want to learn > basic things about fringes. Maybe that part should better go to section > "39.3 Truncation" of the Elisp manual. This text was added in response to explicit requests of users who AFAIR had nothing to do with Lisp programming, so I think the place is right, and its being at the end should minimize the distraction. > As for the vertical borders I don't know. We would need to describe > them somewhere in a context of "resizing side-by-side windows with the > mouse" but we curently do that rather cryptically in section 21.5 of the > Emacs manual as > > Furthermore, by clicking and dragging `mouse-1' on the divider > between two side-by-side mode lines, you can move the vertical boundary > to the left or right. > > Nothing special about windows without vertical scroll bars. I see two potential homes for this: 21.12 "Scroll Bars" and 21.13 "Window Dividers". We can mention it in both, one a full description, the other just a short comment and a cross-reference. WDYT?