From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28596: 26.0.60; [Gnus] Checking mail is no longer reliable and C-g no longer quits Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 19:40:33 +0200 Message-ID: <831skd110u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k20mq0uq.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83tvzl98fe.fsf@gnu.org> <87efqppm4p.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bmlt76uw.fsf@moondust.localdomain> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512236543 10762 195.159.176.226 (2 Dec 2017 17:42:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 17:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 28596@debbugs.gnu.org To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 02 18:42:14 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLBnq-00028U-6M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 18:42:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36492 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLBnu-0001d0-6o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:42:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36702) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLBnl-0001ci-DQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:42:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLBng-0005n3-Gh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:42:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:33482) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLBng-0005mk-CF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:42:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLBnd-00015V-SQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:42:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 17:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28596 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28596-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28596.15122364924112 (code B ref 28596); Sat, 02 Dec 2017 17:42:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2017 17:41:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42163 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLBn9-00014E-Ki for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:41:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45245) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLBn7-00013u-Vf for 28596@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:41:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLBmf-0004uv-GY for 28596@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:41:24 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51102) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLBmf-0004uk-9J; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:41:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1467 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eLBmd-0005xh-28; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:41:01 -0500 In-reply-to: <87bmlt76uw.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (nljlistbox2@gmail.com) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:140627 Archived-At: > From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) > Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:27:35 -0400 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 28596@debbugs.gnu.org > > At 10:13 -0400 on Tuesday 2017-09-26, N. Jackson wrote: > > > > The problem can be easily seen in the *Server* buffer. All my > > nntp servers are broken. > > > > - The nntp servers that are managed by the Agent are in an > > "offline" state even though Gnus is currently plugged (and I > > have a good Internet connection), and the `O', `C' and `R' > > (open, close, and reset all) commands have not effect. (Toggling > > the plugged/unplugged state a few times hasn't changed this > > brokenness.) > > > > - The nntp servers that are not managed by the Agent are in a > > "denied" state and the `O', `C' and `R' (open, close, and reset > > all) commands have not effect. > > It almost seems as if Gnus is in an "unplugged" state even though > in the mode line it says that it's "plugged". (Toggling the > plugged/unplugged state so that the mode line says it's > "unplugged" doesn't help though.) > > One reason why I think Gnus is actually "unplugged" is that when I > enter a news group that is managed by the Agent when Gnus is > "unplugged", the *Summary* buffer is displayed almost instantly. > In contrast when Gnus is not in a "broken" state and is "plugged", > loading the *Summary* buffer is slow as Gnus will retrieve headers > over the Internet, > > A second reason why I think Gnus is actually "unplugged" is that > there are lines in news group *Summary* buffers like > > - .│0.0k│1969-12-31 19:00│ ▣ Gnus Agent [Undownloaded article 218857] > > which I would normally only see when Gnus is "unplugged". > > I have now restarted Emacs to get Gnus back into a working state > -- I have to get real work done. I will report more when I have > time to investigate a "broken" instance of Gnus more thoroughly. Any news on this? Is this problem still present in the Emacs 26.0.90 pretest?