From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30186: 27.0.50; Password is not hidden in read-passwd Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 21:08:24 +0200 Message-ID: <831sicl9p3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871sikmd6o.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83zi57qk2w.fsf@gnu.org> <87bmhm7wbw.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y3kp8thj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87372w8ddp.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <20180125173937.GA3857@ACM> <87vafp7i82.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <20180126183702.GA5056@ACM> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1516993646 28593 195.159.176.226 (26 Jan 2018 19:07:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 19:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 30186@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 26 20:07:21 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ef9LB-0006NX-T7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 20:07:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46748 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ef9NB-0003nv-0w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:09:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36372) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ef9N5-0003ng-CU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:09:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ef9N0-0000AW-Kv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:09:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:36148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ef9N0-0000AG-Gt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:09:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ef9N0-0001V2-B5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:09:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 19:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30186 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 30186-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30186.15169937185730 (code B ref 30186); Fri, 26 Jan 2018 19:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 30186) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2018 19:08:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44045 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ef9Mc-0001UM-7W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:08:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45210) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ef9Ma-0001U7-H3 for 30186@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:08:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ef9MQ-0007gi-OA for 30186@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:08:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39023) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ef9MQ-0007gN-Jz; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:08:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1749 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ef9MP-00005h-2Z; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:08:25 -0500 In-reply-to: <20180126183702.GA5056@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:37:02 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:142552 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:37:02 +0000 > From: Alan Mackenzie > Cc: 30186@debbugs.gnu.org > > The problem here appears to be a fundamental design bug in Emacs: that > text properties are regarded as part of the buffer rather than something > accompanying the buffer, as overlays are. It's not a bug, it's a feature (and a very important one).