From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16493: 24.3.50; (setq search-invisible t) is useless, let's allow to turn visible-mode temporarily on Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 07:23:33 +0300 Message-ID: <831s14cncq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878uucaun0.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87r481fuvk.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87k3dtl8lp.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ppcwxiv9.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87h9xw7puw.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87bno3vae9.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87zi1nl812.fsf@bzg.fr> <87wowql4sd.fsf@bzg.fr> <87y33snmam.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgtzof4s.fsf@gmail.com> <83lfzrsemu.fsf@gnu.org> <87lfzqo11s.fsf@gmail.com> <83h8aeqfao.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1exhuys.fsf@gmail.com> <83k1exc7nu.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="115623"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: bzg@gnu.org, 16493@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 12 06:25:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hPg2w-000Tvz-0Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 May 2019 06:25:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38513 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPg2v-0001Hk-0p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 May 2019 00:25:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44363) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPg2p-0001HS-4f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2019 00:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPg2o-0004zn-9y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2019 00:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:56257) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPg2o-0004zg-7G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2019 00:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hPg2o-0001WP-2t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2019 00:25:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 04:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16493 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 16493-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16493.15576350525790 (code B ref 16493); Sun, 12 May 2019 04:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16493) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2019 04:24:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hPg20-0001VK-6K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2019 00:24:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58132) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hPg1x-0001V7-Vw for 16493@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2019 00:24:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51454) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPg1n-0004J9-3i; Sun, 12 May 2019 00:24:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3949 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hPg1g-00027h-J8; Sun, 12 May 2019 00:23:53 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 11 May 2019 16:06:12 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:159113 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Noam Postavsky , bzg@gnu.org, 16493@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 16:06:12 -0400 > > >> Starting from t, (add-to-invisibility-spec 'foo) also has the weird > >> result that it *reduces* the number of properties which cause > >> invisibility (from infinity to 2). > > Yes, but I don't see that as a problem. > > Here's another way to look at it: > > Give me a circumstance where an Elisp package can make use of the fact > that buffer-invisibility-spec defaults to t? That's the wrong way of looking at the issue, if you want to talk about the aspects that I called "confusing". I see no technical problems with using (t) instead of t, I just said that it confuses the heck out of me, because its semantics is not clear by just looking at the value.