From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35885: 25.2; Few mistakes in Emacs Manual (+ proposals) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:59:45 +0300 Message-ID: <831s009hxa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k1e2tym6.fsf@gnu.org> <835zpltme6.fsf@gnu.org> <83muiwrn2u.fsf@gnu.org> <1583c6b3-2421-794d-8c8b-86287ef3fd5a@gmail.com> <83tvczb236.fsf@gnu.org> <616312d4-0faf-0382-3f21-5b66327d8d8b@gmail.com> <83tvcx9xyl.fsf@gnu.org> <130c7584-e2ad-d521-d468-4119d462583a@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="123807"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 35885@debbugs.gnu.org To: Sebastian Urban Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 11 19:17:24 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hakOh-000W65-Kk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:17:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33186 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hakOg-0000ut-5d for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:17:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54228) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hak8x-0005Dg-Jh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:01:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hak8v-0001UF-J9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:01:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46548) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hak8r-0001SA-W5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:01:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hak8r-0001XP-RL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:01:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35885 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 35885-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35885.15602724145844 (code B ref 35885); Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35885) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2019 17:00:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60092 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hak86-0001WB-Hi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:00:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45317) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hak83-0001V3-JD for 35885@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:00:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49733) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hak7y-0000jw-AH; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:00:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4495 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hak7r-00088P-Nd; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:00:04 -0400 In-reply-to: <130c7584-e2ad-d521-d468-4119d462583a@gmail.com> (message from Sebastian Urban on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:32:36 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:160389 Archived-At: > From: Sebastian Urban > Cc: 35885@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:32:36 +0200 > > So, in 2., 3., 4., 5., 6.(1st), we have pattern of "negative argument > -N ... something N something..." > > In 1. it's something similar but without '-N' just "negative > argument", also 6.(2nd) is something similar but 'N' doesn't have > minus sign. > > But in 7. and 8. (and the one I already sent) we have "if N is > negative... something -N something". > > So, after looking at more examples, I think the best idea would be to > go with the most used pattern, therefore: > - add '-N' to 1., > - add minus sign do 6.(2nd), > - replace - in 7., 8., and the one I sent - "if N is negative" > with "with negative argument -N" then change '-N' to 'N' in the > rest of each sentence. > > There is also a problem of minus sign, or to simply put - lack of it > in 3. and 6.(1st) and the one I sent - there we can see "hyphen-minus" > (#x2d). In other cases it is "minus sign" (#x2212). I fixed the inconsistencies with the minus sign vs hyphen. As for the few examples saying "if N is negative −N times": sorry, I cannot see anything wrong with such wording, so I left those few examples alone. Thanks.