From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36861: 27.0.50; display-fill-column-indicator-mode in log-edit-mode Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 21:26:22 +0300 Message-ID: <831rxycfqp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875znjntfe.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83mugvhr66.fsf@gnu.org> <871ry6rksu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83zhksexvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgqhricg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87o914u65x.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <04C790C7-2667-4480-BDC9-BE838D307A74@aol.com> <837e7qcpbj.fsf@gnu.org> <20190806175146.fpgzslvlaydpih7k@Ergus> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="50785"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 36861@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Ergus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 06 20:27:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hv4Au-000D4G-OQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 20:27:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35544 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hv4At-0006sM-Qk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36315) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hv4Ap-0006sD-VJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hv4Ap-0005N6-59 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:27:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57166) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hv4Ap-0005N2-2N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:27:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hv4Ao-0004JR-R2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:27:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 18:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36861 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 36861-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36861.156511600116548 (code B ref 36861); Tue, 06 Aug 2019 18:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36861) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2019 18:26:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37754 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hv4AT-0004Ip-CG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:26:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52077) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hv4AS-0004Ie-IK for 36861@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:26:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hv4AN-00057y-3I; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:26:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4120 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hv4AL-00017b-5j; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:26:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <20190806175146.fpgzslvlaydpih7k@Ergus> (message from Ergus on Tue, 6 Aug 2019 19:51:46 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164690 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 19:51:46 +0200 > From: Ergus > Cc: juri@linkov.net, 36861@debbugs.gnu.org > > >I don't think I understand the problem. Why doesn't just setting the > >characters and the mode variable work as expected? AFAIU, one needs > >to call the mode function only if one wants Emacs to deduce the > >indicator character automatically. > > Hi: > > It should work as you say. But the default value for > display-fill-column-indicator-character is nil until the mode function > is executed (at least once). > > I think that what they want is display-fill-column-indicator-character > to be non-nil without initialization; which we cannot set without some > checks. Why can't we set display-fill-column-indicator-character to ?| by default? Invoking the mode function will still do its job, but at least people who want to just set the variable will have a functional feature. Am I missing something?