From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46084: [External] : Re: bug#46084: 26.3; Elisp manual: provide a link to (eintro) up front Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:28:31 +0200 Message-ID: <831re5ytb4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o8hbdrh1.fsf@gnus.org> <834kj1ywqq.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23775"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, rms@gnu.org, 46084@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 28 16:32:21 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l59HO-000646-HY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:32:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41236 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l59HN-0007Kl-Ew for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:32:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l59EE-0004R1-AF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37868) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l59EE-0007dn-3G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l59ED-0001zO-VT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:29:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46084 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46084-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46084.16118477187613 (code B ref 46084); Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46084) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jan 2021 15:28:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49414 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l59Dp-0001yj-LU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:28:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45000) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l59Dn-0001yU-AR for 46084@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:28:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l59Dg-0007RV-Vf; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:28:28 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3005 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l59DV-0006WO-C4; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:28:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:16:09 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:198798 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "larsi@gnus.org" , > "46084@debbugs.gnu.org" > <46084@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:16:09 +0000 > > > Because there is already a link. > > Not that I see. At least not in Emacs 26.3 > (or 27.1, or the latest 28 MS Windows > snapshot I have). Maybe your Info manuals are (severely) outdated. This text is there as far back as Emacs 23. > > What else is missing? > > A link (as the enhancement request says). Not just > a textual mention of the manual's title, but an Info > link. > ___ > > And while we're at it, please consider adding a link > (a link) to the Emacs manual, as well. > > Textual references are great. Linked textual refs > are even better. > ___ > > BTW, "This manual" can be misunderstood in the last > sentence you quoted. We presumably want it to mean, > like the first "This manual" of the paragraph, the > Elisp manual. But immediately following mention of > Eintr, it becomes a bit ambiguous. Better to make > explicit which manual is meant. Nothing is ever good enough, sigh.