From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48249: 28.0.50; Regression: emacs confused about window configuration due to ido-mode and/or winner-mode Date: Thu, 06 May 2021 11:04:20 +0300 Message-ID: <831rakffuj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zgx8wmew.fsf@secretsauce.net> <531453ddd62d1011193c@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2088"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48249@debbugs.gnu.org, dima@secretsauce.net To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 06 10:05:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1leZ0S-0000Ql-Ke for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 10:05:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51750 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leZ0R-0006mJ-NW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 04:05:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45176) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leZ0I-0006kn-To for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 04:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53655) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leZ0I-00076Z-GM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 04:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1leZ0I-0002S1-CG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 04:05:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 06 May 2021 08:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48249 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48249-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48249.16202882799406 (code B ref 48249); Thu, 06 May 2021 08:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48249) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2021 08:04:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36968 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1leYzu-0002Re-Nf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 04:04:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36782) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1leYzt-0002RQ-4A for 48249@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 04:04:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49520) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leYzn-0006nO-Jk; Thu, 06 May 2021 04:04:31 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2686 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1leYzn-0000Hn-8C; Thu, 06 May 2021 04:04:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <531453ddd62d1011193c@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Thu, 06 May 2021 07:30:29 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:205762 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 06 May 2021 07:30:29 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > Cc: 48249@debbugs.gnu.org > > I wonder how many more bug reports are needed before the lesson of that > failed experiment will finally be drawn. Significant changes in low-level infrastructure frequently cause a trail of unintended consequences that need to be fixed. The fact that these consequences exist doesn't yet mean the change is a "failed experiment", so please don't be too eager to reach that conclusion based on just having bug reports such as this one. If you think what we saw till now as result of that changeset is a catastrophe, you just didn't see enough serious low-level changes in Emacs yet.