From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32921: emacsclient obeys Xresources even when launched with -nw Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 11:26:15 +0300 Message-ID: <831qwqdj2w.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o7zvc8xi.fsf@gnus.org> <835ym3f0xt.fsf@gnu.org> <875ym3c7bj.fsf@gnus.org> <834k1nezs3.fsf@gnu.org> <87ee0raqy2.fsf@gnus.org> <87czgal2tt.fsf@yahoo.com> <838rqydmy8.fsf@gnu.org> <878rqyklqj.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37017"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 32921@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, jimis@gmx.net To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 19 10:29:53 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nrbXd-0009VN-Go for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 10:29:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43948 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrbXc-0000lN-CE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 04:29:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59994) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrbUs-0007Wt-4n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 04:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40542) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrbUr-0007Ka-S1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 04:27:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrbUr-0005AF-Oi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 04:27:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 08:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32921 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 32921-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32921.165294878919792 (code B ref 32921); Thu, 19 May 2022 08:27:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32921) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2022 08:26:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34436 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrbUK-00059A-JT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 04:26:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38360) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrbUH-00058w-JW for 32921@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 04:26:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53338) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrbUC-0007C8-83; Thu, 19 May 2022 04:26:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=jiJ6aTgN9/2piZnsgvHGEiIbqqN80s+dayKNNOvMXXM=; b=gaqUQLPIs7ZQ F7Tab+JOZBOFHORDYuMOiq1bSJTbjBAgiQG2B4mKQWx4mcwYDsoa6Ud/2FAG2xwparmI2Z/9e/f0i AWXPnYx6ZXj2knHWCal6Q0ojWTDVGvL6nhiEqz3Hxrq+wM4XODWDoRyhlqIOUCxGDKhvbpNZk6uG8 zj0cLhBrmxfdxvx8R9oLGyKN65Pw1jDaPvj8egG+aS+/FwmzV7jOZQ5uZkffH55uORS1HJf+8eM5I Uh8gfgOn9k81nenZb/iudeIFYW7ky2nrkb29JYdQsukO0Znj5+K1EDdctYjlGCsdT8hRJ8SiDuKxI nYECf+YR/fEjxvvyK6Mhrg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4651 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrbUB-0004rK-Kf; Thu, 19 May 2022 04:26:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878rqyklqj.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Thu, 19 May 2022 15:47:00 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:232629 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 32921@debbugs.gnu.org, jimis@gmx.net > Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 15:47:00 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > It cannot be terminal-local, I think, because we want it to be in > > effect for future terminals as well. > > But why? Under X, the resource database loaded by Emacs is normally > specific to each display. (Emacs only loads the users X resource file > manually if it was never previously loaded into the X server.) I think > what the code in x-win.el does means that only one display's > `reverseVideo' resource will be respected at any given time, while each > display's X resources are documented to only apply to frames created on > that display. We may be miscommunicating. The offending code in x-win.el is called at startup, only once, and sets up default-frame-alist for all the future frames, including those on displays this Emacs session did not yet open and knows nothing about. How would you define default-frame-alist that is specific to those as-yet-unknown displays? And if you are saying that the code in x-win.el should only affect the display on which Emacs was started, then that would be an even more seriously breaking change. Why should we assume that the user intended his/her X resources to be only honored on the (random) display where Emacs shows its first frame? The files ~/.Xresources and ~/.Xdefaults are not specific to any display, AFAIU, they are global for the user. Right?