From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55862: Removing indent-tabs-mode set to t by default Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 19:58:17 +0300 Message-ID: <831qvx3hau.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83h74u4csf.fsf@gnu.org> <8e7a8804-681f-200e-3c9b-c4947d059fe5@yandex.ru> <83edzx3jpz.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29624"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 55862@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: goncholden Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 09 19:31:04 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLzr-0007X4-OW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 19:31:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44172 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLzq-0008OT-Hk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 13:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLUs-0004f4-G5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53721) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLUs-00081z-7P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLUs-0005lB-7J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:59:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 16:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55862 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 55862-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55862.165479390822080 (code B ref 55862); Thu, 09 Jun 2022 16:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55862) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jun 2022 16:58:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47612 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLUJ-0005k4-RO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:58:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37146) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLUI-0005jp-3d for 55862@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:58:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33176) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLUC-0007zh-Lu; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:58:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=mbAwzbqqHKlNT8qS8P7HigBv00LfXbJtU+2LQ+baw4Y=; b=YEuTzKN3PK/U ikDM6wRG1Qd8Np/rA5kSjGy/Z+Km/NrZ6Bak22gG1cvXFI0dGOUK/61ZPt2pODxdgfglcUjCDJiw9 9yH4QHuMr4wKIyFdzequhS0f1lW1gmwWHNvTvRjVWEyN5zwTWw1DDTecuZzGrg3GWvCH0qxq4u7ap I6wlnyYVpXorSD4d1CMwWJR5m69jMdg9MkTdbwcbLg9O5qwlapeG7rCNkNCAKIQnHL5jbsIx7UPBO gEuKWYPCxks/kvdJjhH33pP8X+y5y7bt/ewuRxa//cIFMX5v8OKC1V6ld5h/XfIPP5Qn/uGt2ETky jBFv9wVKYyc9tYjGJNeP0g==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4535 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLUB-0000Lm-Md; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:58:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from goncholden on Thu, 09 Jun 2022 16:44:27 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:234129 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 16:44:27 +0000 > From: goncholden > Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, 55862@debbugs.gnu.org > > The problem occurs mainly because tab widths are not consistent. As is known, tab widths relate directly with spaces, but that information is lost. If you work in an environment where people change the visual width of TABs, then indeed you will want not to use TABs. But that is not a given.