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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: rgm@gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, 48324@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#48324: 27.2; hexl-mode duplicates the UTF-8 BOM
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2022 14:31:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831qv19ksq.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wnct88ui.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon,  04 Jul 2022 12:34:29 +0200)

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: rgm@gnu.org,  schwab@linux-m68k.org,  48324@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2022 12:34:29 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > I see that it's actually 6 bytes _including_ the BOM.  So I think this
> > is confusing: if we are going to return a string with the BOM, we
> > should not count the BOM as part of the LENGTH bytes.  Because if I
> > requested to get characters which fit into N bytes, I should get those
> > N bytes of payload.  Or maybe we should have an optional argument to
> > control whether LENGTH includes or excludes the BOM.
> 
> It the caller has asked for a max number of bytes in a coding system
> that includes a BOM, then the BOM has to be counted -- otherwise the
> bytes won't fit into whatever field the protocol they're using limits
> the string to.

You obviously have a very specific use case in mind.  But there are
others.  Moreover, UTF and BOM is a special case, where the prefix is
known in advance.  Other encodings, notably from the ISO-2022 family,
are harder because the exact shift-ion sequence is not always easy to
guess.

Which is why I thought a way to control this aspect could be needed.
But we could just document the subtlety and wait for someone to come
up with a practical scenario where it would be needed.

> (And we don't have a -without-signature variant, do we?)

We do: utf-16le and utf-16be.

> > In any case, we should mention this aspect in the doc string, I think.
> 
> Yes.  But should we have -without-signature variants for utf-16?  Then
> the doc string could recommend using that if the caller wants BOM-less
> bytes.

See above.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-04 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <0ed1c9c7-26c1-b801-1910-6d5bb50dec3d.ref@yahoo.de>
2021-05-09 19:14 ` bug#48321: 27.2; Text copied from *grep* buffer has NUL (0x00) characters R. Diez via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-05-09 21:38   ` bug#48324: 27.2; hexl-mode duplicates the UTF-8 BOM R. Diez via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-05-10 14:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <e250f934-6f7b-bec3-9df4-d2b242599a45@yahoo.de>
2021-05-10 16:13         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-10 16:28           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-10 16:50             ` Andreas Schwab
2021-05-10 17:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-10 17:43                 ` R. Diez via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-05-10 17:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-10 18:05                     ` Andreas Schwab
2021-05-11 12:04                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-11 20:37                         ` Glenn Morris
2021-05-12 13:50                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02 16:14                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-02 16:37                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-03 11:08                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-03 12:07                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-03 13:00                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-03 13:26                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-03 13:48                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2022-07-03 13:51                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-04 10:34                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-04 11:31                                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-07-05 11:08                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-03 13:28                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-10 17:06             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-11 12:53   ` bug#48321: 27.2; Text copied from *grep* buffer has NUL (0x00) characters Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-02 15:59     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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