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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: yantar92@posteo.net, 62762@debbugs.gnu.org, bzg@gnu.org,
	dmitry@gutov.dev, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de
Subject: bug#62762: 'make' often errors with "Org version mismatch" after pulling a new version of the code
Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 20:48:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831qjuisa4.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ce7d18d-8190-a379-f503-5b0fef1dcb88@gmail.com> (message from Max Nikulin on Fri, 5 May 2023 23:46:36 +0700)

> Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 23:46:36 +0700
> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, yantar92@posteo.net, bzg@gnu.org,
>  dmitry@gutov.dev, 62762@debbugs.gnu.org, acm@muc.de
> From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
> 
> >    . require
> >    . eval-when-compile
> >    . eval-and-compile
> 
> I was aware of these forms before you mentioned them first time in this 
> discussion.
> 
> > etc.  When fileA.el does any of that to load fileB.el, and fileB.el
> > does something to load fileA.el (whether directly or indirectly, via
> > other files), you have a circular dependency.
> 
> I am sorry, but it is far from a complete example. I still have no idea 
> how to combine it in a such way that there would be no problem to 
> compile and load files, but attempt to create build dependencies would 
> fail due to a cycle.
> 
> Perhaps editing some Emacs files you will notice the pattern you are 
> writing about. I will be grateful if you provide names of files 
> demonstrating cyclic dependency issue.

You seem to think it's easy to find these examples and provide them,
and I just stubbornly refuse to reveal them to you?

It isn't easy.  You need to actively find these references and chase
their chains, to find those cases.  I just know they exist because I
bumped into them in the past.

If you want to find them, you will have to write the code to detect
those dependencies, and then look at the graph produced from them.
There's no other way (unless Stefan happens to remember some by
heart, by some luck).





  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-05 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-10 23:09 bug#62762: 'make' often errors with "Org version mismatch" after pulling a new version of the code Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-11  6:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11  7:18   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-11  8:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 18:35       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-11 18:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 18:59           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-11 19:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 19:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12  9:03               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-12  9:21                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13  8:34                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-13  8:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 14:20                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-13 14:55                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 15:05                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-15 10:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 11:36                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-15 11:40                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 11:57                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-15 12:08                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-21 11:44                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-21 15:28                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-22  9:49                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 12:39                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-22 12:48                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 14:32                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-23  8:55                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-24 11:21                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-24 12:29                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-24 17:43                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-24 18:54                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-24 18:56                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-25  7:08                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 12:38                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-25 12:59                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 13:55                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-22 14:30         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-22 14:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-23  9:21           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-01  1:48             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 10:25               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-01 16:49                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-02 11:26                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-02 13:12                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-03 10:30                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-03 21:37                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-05-04  5:35                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04 14:02                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-05-04 14:10                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04 15:31                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-04 21:53                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-05  4:18                             ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05  5:27                               ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05  6:46                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05  7:27                                   ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 10:38                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 11:20                                       ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 11:33                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 15:33                                           ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 15:49                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 16:46                                               ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 17:48                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-05-05 18:26                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-11 15:14                                                     ` bug#62762: circular dependencies in elisp files and make Max Nikulin
2023-05-11 15:20                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-11 15:59                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12 14:59                                                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-12 15:10                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12 15:26                                                             ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-12 16:01                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-13  3:08                                                                 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-13  6:50                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-13  7:34                                                                     ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-13  8:46                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-13 10:25                                                                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-13 10:58                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-13 11:21                                                                             ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-13 14:49                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-13 14:48                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-15 10:11                                                                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-15 11:20                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-15 13:00                                                                             ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-15 15:00                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-13 15:43                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-05 14:29                               ` bug#62762: 'make' often errors with "Org version mismatch" after pulling a new version of the code Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-05 16:37                                 ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-05 18:17                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-06  5:25                                     ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-06 13:02                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-07 16:23                                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-07 21:57                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-08 10:05                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-10 14:52                                             ` Max Nikulin
2023-06-23 12:02                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-25 14:37                                                 ` Max Nikulin
2023-06-27 10:59                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-27 11:40                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 12:08                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-27 12:12                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 12:30                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-27 12:51                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 16:11                                                     ` Max Nikulin
2023-07-04 12:20                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-06  6:00                                     ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-06  7:51                                       ` bug#62762: Incremental builds and Lisp files dependencies " Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 15:50                                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-06 16:26                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07  2:45                                             ` Max Nikulin
2023-05-07  5:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii

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