From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67810: 29.1; fonts use synthetic bold on Linux / pgtk Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 16:03:32 +0200 Message-ID: <831qakf1vv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <0719018bb386e840efaa655b7c0b765ece9cd9ff.camel@timruffing.de> <83le9xqewb.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6klja8c.fsf@yahoo.com> <723b91276f83652bc6867f95630e1057c05ffb26.camel@timruffing.de> <87ttnj2uj6.fsf@yahoo.com> <83frz3j6bq.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5pa3m9q.fsf@yahoo.com> <83bk9qkc53.fsf@gnu.org> <875xzy3frj.fsf@yahoo.com> <831qamka3m.fsf@gnu.org> <871qam3dbr.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sf32iqs5.fsf@gnu.org> <87sf3212mz.fsf@yahoo.com> <83sf31hg72.fsf@gnu.org> <87frz020di.fsf@yahoo.com> <83il3wfn57.fsf@gnu.org> <8734v01gm1.fsf@yahoo.com> <838r4sfeem.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttngyqp6.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13420"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: crypto@timruffing.de, 67810@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 14 15:04:24 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rP168-0003FJ-IW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 15:04:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rP15o-0005gO-DJ; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:04:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rP15m-0005gG-V5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:04:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rP15m-00006t-Mu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:04:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rP15l-0007XC-Rm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:04:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 14:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67810 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 67810-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67810.170524103928951 (code B ref 67810); Sun, 14 Jan 2024 14:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67810) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2024 14:03:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41940 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rP15j-0007Ws-BD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:03:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53542) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rP15h-0007WX-3x for 67810@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:03:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rP15b-0008Pn-Rw; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 09:03:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=GtC17ZLl+fBH90sTBpe4mLpOeIC9IMRFssBUh4fSb7c=; b=sY5Yqhrh/CzM 1AeuaWI3Flfdn6kc6c8mpps673Kmz2zc3+Rq1xmI3z5dK1sIdHPWjkSFPS4SrKgytwXZEJ1ydztd9 VKTHTr2kK4h0n3nCP+SrYvvBtbjojyA+gOBOp5sd394c/akd7U8sXG9WZSVjQ8I0GVOCGx9Jc77zO QOBjsob95/zklU3jHjoNu06PhZ+GQFBSvHqwRseIXYyC8Eu9upVZOKA3q6+UIvWw67SI15/2GUQeV FV7dPxtx+lhAtk/zehnsc3LIwsRhnvDBO1ybMNomOpZ8W1DEO1RC+7dikuTlbTTZ2lGLm49kkBFgM 3iui2ya8j6anwh3Gfbe7Bg==; In-Reply-To: <87ttngyqp6.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:44:53 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:278211 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: crypto@timruffing.de, stefankangas@gmail.com, 67810@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:44:53 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > There are faces that Emacs imposes that are not controlled by > > packages. For example, the buffer name on the mode line is displayed > > in bold, and changing that is not easy. Why cannot we allow users to > > tweak this issue by providing a simple variable? What are the > > downsides? > > It can't be guaranteed that this variable will work, because Emacs is > not the only program synthesizing bold variants from fonts that don't > incorporate them. Moreover, little-used options that control these very > particular aspects of our font display tend to fall into disrepair: for > instance, Vvertical_centering_font_regexp didn't function on any system > besides X, until yours truly implemented it for Android, a state of > affairs that remained unnoticed for upwards of a decade. I still don't understand what would be the downside of giving users such a knob. The worst that can happen is that this knob will sometimes not work. So what? I say let's introduce it and let users who want to use it cope with the results. All it takes is a new DRFVAR and a single 'if'.