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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: 18844@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#18844: Trunk: typing in minibuffer gets spuriously echoed in mode line
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:25:30 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83108ea9-6a27-4d71-baef-28eb17774f15@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86mw8hetf5.fsf@yandex.ru>

> > That gets rid of it; thanks.  Please turn this OFF by default.
> 
> It's a great feature, please keep it on.

Even if you, as one user, think it is a great feature, why should
it suddenly be *on by default*.

> We've seen some votes in favor of it already too. If it annoys the
> majority of users, we'll see a lot more of dissenting voices.

*Seen some votes* means nothing.  Not seeing "a lot more" dissenting
voices means nothing also.

> And Emacs trunk is a good place to experiment with new features,
> which won't necesarily make it into release.

People can experiment with new features without Emacs turning them
on by default.  And that is generally what is done.

> > Let those who want to try it turn it on and experiment with it.
> > Maybe after a few years we can discuss whether it merits being
> > turned on by default, if many people clearly are using it at
> > that point.  Turning it on now without discussion is premature
> > and anti-user/community.
> 
> Nobody really has to use it for a few years to decide if they like
> it or not. 

Right.  But a user deciding whether s?he likes it or not is not
what this is about, is it?  You are requesting that this be turned
for *all* users, by *default*.

> And there's no need for a years-long discussion about it
> either, it's not that big a feature.

It's not that big a feature => don't turn it on by default.





  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-27 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-26 15:53 bug#18844: Trunk: typing in minibuffer gets spuriously echoed in mode line Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-26 16:00 ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-10-26 16:32   ` Drew Adams
2014-10-27  9:46     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-10-27 15:25       ` Drew Adams [this message]
     [not found] ` <mailman.12084.1414339274.1147.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-10-26 16:12   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-26 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-26 17:00   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-26 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-26 17:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found] <<20141026155332.GB4397@acm.acm>
     [not found] ` <<83ioj64x70.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-10-26 16:33   ` Drew Adams

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