From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: era Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20891: emacs: Back off if .doc is not an Office document Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 10:29:15 +0200 Message-ID: <82f50332-0279-4df9-83bd-d0161a3d5bde@www.fastmail.com> References: <1435144758.2326415.306422097.2EE346E7@webmail.messagingengine.com> <875zngd2v4.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87pni54vou.fsf@marxist.se> <666aa5df-8f4b-4bb9-a542-945421c584b9@www.fastmail.com> <874kzgy4mp.fsf@marxist.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="49838"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.7-509-ge3ec61c-fmstable-20191030v1 To: "Richard Stallman" , 20891@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 07 09:32:26 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iSdDO-000Co1-1X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 7 Nov 2019 03:31:03 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171068 Archived-At: On Thu, Nov 7, 2019, at 06:45, Richard Stallman wrote: > > So, as long as we lack editing capabilities, showing an image of the > > document in Emacs is actually pretty useful. > How would Emacs do that? The Emacs-side entry point seems to be doc-view-mode-maybe, which is hooked in auto-mode-alist for a number of file name extensions. As described in https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DocViewMode it relies on external utilities to provide the actual image. I was unable to quickly repro in a fresh Debian or Ubuntu image, but that might be because I didn't have the external utility installed. Tangentially, googling for doc-view-mode-maybe suggests that lots of people are annoyed by it and want to turn it off, probably often for related but distinct reasons. -- If this were a real .signature, it would suck less. Well, maybe not.