From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15095: 24.2; mail items in Tools menu confusing to new users Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 13:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82aad71a-5cdf-4e0e-845c-a382600d396c@default> References: <87y584tdzu.fsf@abbey.wistly.net> <837gfop2r7.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376511806 18398 80.91.229.3 (14 Aug 2013 20:23:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Carson Chittom , 15095@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 14 22:23:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V9hbI-0007rT-9v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:23:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49904 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9hbH-0007xG-Ta for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:23:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58885) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9hb5-0007er-Hj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:23:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9haw-0007xU-Vq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:23:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36273) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9haw-0007xQ-Sx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V9haw-00050I-Fh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15095 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15095-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15095.137651176919207 (code B ref 15095); Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15095) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2013 20:22:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58822 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V9hai-0004zi-Uo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:22:49 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:23543) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V9hah-0004zU-LZ for 15095@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:22:48 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r7EKMFRd010631 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:22:23 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7EKM9ul012079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:22:09 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt119.oracle.com (abhmt119.oracle.com [141.146.116.71]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7EKM9DF005382; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:22:09 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:77359 Archived-At: > I think "Send Mail" should be replaced with "Compose new mail". Then it > makes more sense to have a separate entry for it. Or perhaps just "New Message"?