From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9336: 24.0.50; No way to input character #xbb4 using ta-itrans Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:44:29 +0530 Message-ID: <814o068rbu.fsf@gmail.com> References: <81y5xj4hcu.fsf@gmail.com> <877h52imnz.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316578561 32432 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2011 04:16:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 04:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9336@debbugs.gnu.org To: Vijay Lakshminarayanan Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 21 06:15:55 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6EDx-0001yw-BM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:15:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36073 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6EDw-0005KS-Hy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:15:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34938) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6EDu-0005KN-5n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:15:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6EDt-0002hr-6I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:15:50 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:45538) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6EDt-0002hn-3X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:15:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6EE5-0004j3-Ne for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:16:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 04:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9336 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9336-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9336.131657850918106 (code B ref 9336); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 04:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9336) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2011 04:15:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6EDF-0004hz-2h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:15:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pz0-f50.google.com ([209.85.210.50]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6EDD-0004hr-76 for 9336@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:15:08 -0400 Original-Received: by pzk37 with SMTP id 37so1071753pzk.9 for <9336@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:14:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8t6HQWpDcCbzkDymKxW8wT1Sj1d2c+MXVFcYNTPDoh4=; b=cK8Cxj/3pVCwUSavAurDesoZAmGbx97Qw9uhKxk1g1xnxKxd8JcEVWg18EuTXMOVcv dyDCocO/vhd21aqA+FNAPeUWcr8NA9bo3NN5Hrbb6VjOKli/4u1zlgYbeDm84sIcAShH rah033xzOrqBSukJwft38jVsn780zZOfJx8RY= Original-Received: by 10.68.47.74 with SMTP id b10mr802043pbn.293.1316578493319; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from JAMBU-NETBOOK ([115.241.107.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i2sm12818081pbt.3.2011.09.20.21.14.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:14:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <877h52imnz.fsf@gmail.com> (Vijay Lakshminarayanan's message of "Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:15:04 +0530") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:16:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:51568 Archived-At: >> (Rationale: This is how it's usually mapped by a layman even outside of >> ta-itrans) > > "zha" would be more appropriate. Just to pick two contemporary names > that have =E0=AE=B4 in them, we have Azhagiri and Kanimozhi. (For Kenichi's benefit) The two things that you have cited above are Tamil people names. Or=20 Are you making the suggestion - "zha" - based on an actual itrans implementation? Within Emacs, if I type - `zha' - I get `=E0=AE=B4=E0=AF=8D= =E0=AE=B9' and mapping `ha' to `=E0=AE=B9' seems very reasonable to me. IMO, there seems to be some de-facto or normative standard on how english sequences are mapped to tamil alphabets (or any given language?) via itrans. In that case, there is nothing much Emacs can do but follow the crowd. I am a layman user, I don't have any prior experience with other ta-itrans implementations and Kenichi is the expert here. I would be perfectly OK with a less than perfect mapping as long as I get uniform experience across a variety of systems (including Emacs). Jambunathan K.