From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21471: 25.0.50; REGRESSION: bug report with text from Info has spurious escape chars Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 06:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80cd3503-4afd-45e3-a70b-d7f3ff676aea@default> References: <> <<83wpvu9jf1.fsf@gnu.org>> <> <<83r3m1a5bf.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442238509 13193 80.91.229.3 (14 Sep 2015 13:48:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21471@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 14 15:48:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbU7D-0007tJ-AA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:48:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40940 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbU7B-0001fi-Vl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:48:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52986) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbU76-0001c9-7f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbU70-0003mT-BM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:39345) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbU70-0003mN-8u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbU70-0006ls-5F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:48:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21471 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21471-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21471.144223843925939 (code B ref 21471); Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:48:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21471) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2015 13:47:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59788 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbU6I-0006kI-6r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:47:18 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:36423) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbU6G-0006kA-Sq for 21471@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:47:17 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t8EDlFL4014628 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:47:15 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t8EDlFCw029770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:47:15 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t8EDlE4B023603; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:47:15 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83r3m1a5bf.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:106530 Archived-At: > > Is there some reason not to proceed that way? Am I missing > > something? >=20 > Reliability. The command to report a bug must be 100% reliable, and > it must work out of the box in "emacs -Q". We already let users configure how bug reporting interacts with their mail environment. Why not provide a user option that handles this correctly? Even in `emacs -Q', I should be able to copy+paste non-ASCII text, assuming my mail client can handle it. I'm sorry to say it, but your response about this really sounds like a cop-out. This might not be the most urgent bug, but I cannot see that this is something that should be foisted on the user as being her problem (just don't use `C-c C-c' and instead create a mail-client message by hand and paste copied non-ASCII text into it manually). That is not a reasonable answer, IMHO. But whatever.