From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11205: 24.0.95; starttls-use-gnutls no longer being honored Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:43:59 -0400 Message-ID: <7j4nsrtrc0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <8462d9k9lr.fsf@aol.com> <847gxomgpf.fsf@aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1334079917 11963 80.91.229.3 (10 Apr 2012 17:45:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11205@debbugs.gnu.org To: nyc4bos@aol.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 10 19:45:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SHf7z-0003o8-4v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:45:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42930 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHf7y-0000U8-HE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:45:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53671) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHf7q-0000Lr-O5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:45:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHf7k-0002hS-Kr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:45:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52642) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHf7k-0002hL-H9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:45:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHf8k-0006ZU-8A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:46:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11205 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11205-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11205.133407991025125 (code B ref 11205); Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11205) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2012 17:45:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49161 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHf7t-0006X9-0U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:45:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:40589) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHf7n-0006Wr-TS for 11205@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SHf6l-0008F9-PP; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:43:59 -0400 X-Spook: halcon Europol Qaddafi AGT. AMME warfare Merlin CIA X-Ran: wh@"{5WPy3Z}S!CU'-1--qP/e2jAn7.N+ZiI)\^#,dE6FG9hQ^+4DjZG#^2[B-x|9gdVj, X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <847gxomgpf.fsf@aol.com> (nyc4bos@aol.com's message of "Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:03:08 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:58713 Archived-At: You could always try redefining gnutls-available-p to return nil, eg: (defalias 'gnutls-available-p 'ignore) I confess I don't really understand what you are trying to do, or why it matters if the internal support is used. Hopefully someone else can help.