From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23957: [PATCH] Make fboundp an alias for symbol-function Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:10:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <7fd05844-b6aa-4c8b-9c84-97fb56acbcde@default> References: <87k2gr49lp.fsf@cochranmail.com> <8760savf1s.fsf@cochranmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468354288 8601 80.91.229.3 (12 Jul 2016 20:11:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Philipp Stephani , Robert Cochran , 23957@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: Sora Firestorm Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 12 22:11:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bN41R-0008Ah-VD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 22:11:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43167 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bN41R-0007qn-3F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:11:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42103) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bN41L-0007qh-9x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:11:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bN41G-0007IO-18 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:11:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:36419) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bN41F-0007IJ-TN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:11:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bN41F-00079J-QH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:11:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23957 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 23957-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23957.146835421127415 (code B ref 23957); Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:11:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23957) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2016 20:10:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48756 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bN40R-000786-Ka for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:10:11 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:37693) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bN40Q-00077u-7R for 23957@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:10:10 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u6CKA3Ev032342 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:10:03 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6CKA2Z6011345 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:10:02 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0017.oracle.com (abhmp0017.oracle.com [141.146.116.23]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6CKA0Hb031075; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:10:00 GMT In-Reply-To: <8760savf1s.fsf@cochranmail.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:120954 Archived-At: > >> I'd suggest to simply remove the FIXME instead. > > > > I'd be somewhat curious about who wrote it and why. Maybe > > there is something else that could be done to satisfy whatever > > the perceived need was. >=20 > I just did a blame for that line, and it lead back to commit eadf1faa > ("Conflate Qnil and Qunbound for `symbol-function'.") by Stefan Monnier > (CC'd). Yes, well, perhaps Stefan will chime in with the reason(s) for it. But to my mind the simple action "Conflate Qnil and Qunbound for `symbol-function'" sounds like it is about doing something to `symbol-function' rather than doing something to `fboundp'. It is the behavior (hence meaning) of `fboundp' that changes if you set it as an alias for `symbol-function'. The latter's behavior does not change.