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Contovounesios wrote: > "Basil L. Contovounesios" writes: > >> Andreas Röhler writes: >> >>> From my point of view it's not that much about the docu but about the design. >>> >>> Users should not be forced to add an extra argument to prevent auto-fill when it >>> is about a newline. >> Users who do not want auto-filling should not enable auto-fill-mode, >> either directly or by setting auto-fill-function. > Alternatively, users who want auto-fill-mode to ignore newlines can do > the following: > > (aset auto-fill-chars ?\C-j nil) > > This is documented under (info "(elisp) Commands for Insertion") and > (info "(elisp) Auto Filling"). > Okay, commonly there many ways in Emacs to work around an issue, which is great. But that doesn't solve it at source. By its semantic newline is unrelated to filling, from there that behavior is not to expect, idiosyncratic.