From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21225: 25.0.50; doc strings of `define-obsolete-*' Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 10:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7c3e32cc-1fec-4675-b330-5affa4452e95@default> References: <7ec85eda-d5e0-4bda-8dba-4a75fe5f93e5@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439141784 31157 80.91.229.3 (9 Aug 2015 17:36:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 17:36:24 +0000 (UTC) To: 21225@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 09 19:36:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOUW2-0004zG-Jt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 19:36:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55857 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOUW1-0001xF-VW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 13:36:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54301) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOUVx-0001wx-Fm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 13:36:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOUVu-0005Ju-A8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 13:36:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOUVu-0005Jk-6S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 13:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOUVt-0001WO-S1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 13:36:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 17:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21225 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21225-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21225.14391417135792 (code B ref 21225); Sun, 09 Aug 2015 17:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21225) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2015 17:35:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51404 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOUV6-0001VM-Rq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 13:35:13 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:33044) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOUV4-0001VE-Om for 21225@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 13:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t79HZ95I027444 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <21225@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 17:35:09 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t79HZ9IQ010266 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <21225@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 17:35:09 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t79HZ8Dx015509 for <21225@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 17:35:08 GMT In-Reply-To: <7ec85eda-d5e0-4bda-8dba-4a75fe5f93e5@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105380 Archived-At: I forgot to add: The doc (doc strings and manual) should make clear that the args are evaluated. This is not obvious, as these are macros. For example, this is needed: (define-obsolete-variable-alias 'last-input-char 'last-input-event "at least 19.34") This is no good: (define-obsolete-variable-alias last-input-char last-input-event "at least 19.34") The current doc is quite unclear about this, especially by just referring to the args as "*-NAME". (Nothing wrong with those parameter names, as long as you make clear that the args are evaluated.)