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From: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: acm@muc.de, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 74382@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#74382: `compile-first` Make rule is no longer using `load-prefer-newer`
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:05:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7b07de9fd995f14e3b4d675c7288108dbe57209c.camel@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m28qth1902.fsf@gmail.com>

On Mon, 2024-11-18 at 05:06 +0100, Gerd Möllmann wrote:
> Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru> writes:
> 
> > Even Gerd in this discussion forgot about this peculiarity — and
> > Gerd unlike me is a regular Emacs developer.
> 
> Even worse, even worse: He wrote that stuff! But I think I'll excuse
> him
> because that was 25 years ago, and he took a 20 year break from
> Emacs,
> after stepping down, and he's old of course :-).
> 
> Seriously, maybe knowing a bit of history helps understand the
> current
> situation wrt .elc files? One wouldn't believe it nowadays, but they
> were originally in version control, i.e. RCS, and later CVS. I didn't
> want that in the public CVS repo we set up for Emacs 21, so I added
> the
> ability to bootstrap and removed the .elc files from CVS.
> COMPILE_FIRST
> and so on are part of the bootstrapping support.

Btw, thank you, this bit of history indeed is interesting. During whole
discussion I had a question on the back of my mind: how this
"distribute pre-built elc in tarballs" idea initially came to be. I
mean, it's kind of nice from POV of saving a bit of energy around the
world on CI machines, but I don't see much beyond that. Building elc
files is not *that* bad for elc distribution to be strictly necessary.

Now that you told this, I realize it's just a solution to a problem
from 25 years old back, from times when that actually was a problem.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-18 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-16 15:11 bug#74382: `compile-first` Make rule is no longer using `load-prefer-newer` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 16:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-16 17:45   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 18:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 18:43       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 20:00         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 22:54           ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17  6:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 15:31               ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17  7:25     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-17 15:21       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 15:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 15:43           ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 15:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 16:04               ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 16:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 16:46                   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 17:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 17:24                       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18  4:06                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-18  6:19                   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 10:05                   ` Konstantin Kharlamov [this message]
2024-11-18 12:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-18 13:12                       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 13:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 15:43         ` Gerd Möllmann

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