From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14734: 24.3.50; REGRESSION: defadvice broken wrt doc strings (C-h f) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 13:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <79d15b84-e0a2-4967-bd32-1be3008af765@default> References: <87ppv550s6.fsf@web.de> <309ce668-1d40-4865-b796-d6828f65a8d4@default> <49fae9c3-c59c-4b08-84f0-24dc9935b345@default> <5c00eebb-f58f-4d6f-a648-d10fbd11d7cf@default> <22a4419a-308e-4633-aba4-d85cfc0556e3@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373142189 32559 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2013 20:23:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 20:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Juanma Barranquero , 14734@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 06 22:23:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZ0e-0006qy-Qc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 22:23:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51415 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZ0e-0006yv-7c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:23:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36656) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZ0Z-0006yn-LY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:23:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZ0Y-0004gp-Pn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41124) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZ0Y-0004gh-MP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZ0Y-0004ah-5L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14734 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 14734-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14734.137314216217609 (code B ref 14734); Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14734) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2013 20:22:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35439 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZ0E-0004Zx-4e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:22:42 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:45602) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZ0B-0004Zj-QY for 14734@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:22:40 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r66KMWfc003876 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 6 Jul 2013 20:22:33 GMT Original-Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r66KMV1l006519 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 6 Jul 2013 20:22:31 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r66KMUCC006513; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 20:22:31 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:76019 Archived-At: > > (It should have been obvious while implementing it that from > > a user point of view it would be a mistake.) >=20 > Yes, I'm simply an idiot Please calm down. No one questions your intelligence (as your sarcasm indicates you know full well). It's about effect on users; it's not only about implementation. And it is certainly not about you or about intelligence. Being brilliant does not mean that one never makes mistakes or always exercises the best judgment. "I'm smart, therefore I must be right" is not always a smart argument.