From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7700: 24.0.50; C-y binding withing Isearch mode Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:51:21 -0800 Message-ID: <79948203EB3B4EF9BBC0586AD28F3901@us.oracle.com> References: <20101223171434.GA3971@muc.de> <20101227221541.GA5299@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293499426 22289 80.91.229.12 (28 Dec 2010 01:23:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 01:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7700@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Lennart Borgman'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 28 02:23:41 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PXOHs-0003qo-1t for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 02:23:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52251 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PXOHr-0004HM-9W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:23:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55036 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PXOHa-0004Ae-SJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:23:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PXOHZ-00032O-OS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:23:22 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PXOHZ-00032K-My for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:23:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PXNiQ-0008FO-EE; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 19:47:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7700 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7700-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7700.129349717931641 (code B ref 7700); Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7700) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Dec 2010 00:46:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PXNhi-0008EH-VK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 19:46:19 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PXNhh-0008E1-Cv for 7700@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 19:46:17 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oBS0r46D004215 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:53:05 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oBS003qj019512; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:53:03 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt010.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 884337441293497483; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:51:23 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.240.115) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:51:23 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcumJEjDAoQxe1ZZRKmrt85CU2SbTQAA2C6Q X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 19:47:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:42887 Archived-At: > I tested to implement this and it took me just a few minutes to get > the first part of it working. Now what do you want me to do with this? Implemented what? We were in the middle of an open-ended discussion of which binding to use for what is currently C-y, etc. AFAIK, nothing was decided. At least I hope nothing has been decided. More discussion is needed of what the best approach is, IMO. But this is not the place to design. If the discussion is to be continued, it should be moved to emacs-devel. > I actually think submitting a new bug report is the best thing. Huh? What for? We already have one bug report about this. The suggestion to use C-y for yank, which those who have discussed it so far seem to agree on (without agreeing yet about where to put what is now on C-y) is already logged as _this_ bug report (really an enhancement request). Why would we want an additional one? > It might mean killing it as Drew suggested, No idea what you mean. I didn't suggest killing "it", whatever you might mean by "it". I didn't suggest killing anything. My suggestion was to move the discussion of which key to use for what is now C-y (yank to end of line) to the emacs-devel list. Nothing more. It is that discussion that might take a while and is currently incomplete (IMO). The discussion of whether to let C-y and M-y do what they usually do finished quickly - at least on the bug list. Everyone participating so far agreed that it is a good idea. But before "implementing" that we should decide where to put the current C-y behavior. > but as some of us would love this change it also reminds of > Inanna. It will return. What change? Use C-y in isearch for yanking? Yes, but then what?