From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22987: 24.5; Incorrect index entry for (elisp) `?help-e Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <76bcb021-4d6e-44ce-8d20-bca44bc0746b@default> References: <834mcdj8or.fsf@gnu.org> <7a63860f-3902-4dcf-a8ac-9b6af77f16d0@default> <790d9dc8-89ed-4115-953a-3a7ebc947f10@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459097605 30890 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2016 16:53:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22987@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 27 18:53:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1akDw6-0008Q8-Fp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:53:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36713 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akDw5-0000oj-9T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:53:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48379) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akDw1-0000oE-Rc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:53:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akDvy-00087c-FW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:53:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:43233) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akDvy-00087R-C6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akDvy-0007nG-29 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:53:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22987 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22987-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22987.145909753329900 (code B ref 22987); Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22987) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2016 16:52:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40360 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akDvB-0007mC-FN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:52:13 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:47916) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akDv9-0007lx-Rg for 22987@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:52:12 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u2RGq5Si023696 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:52:05 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u2RGq5IK004133 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:52:05 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u2RGq4Nc014165; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:52:04 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115594 Archived-At: > > Otherwise, hopefully someone else will run into the same problem > > eventually. Otherwise, I'll maybe have to stay with Emacs 24.5. >=20 > Conversely, if you can send me your build steps, I can make a pretest bui= ld > in Windows and try it there. What about the prebuilt binaries that Phil = Lord > should have uploaded to the FTP server by now. Do those work? I don't build Emacs. The pretests I have _are_ those from the FTP server by Phil Lord. The one I mentioned is from 3/20. The one on the site now is dated 3/21. It does not seem that multiple builds from different dates are available on that site - the next one uploaded apparently just replaces the last one. To be more clear: I have had some crashes using emacs -Q, but generally when I try to make use of Emacs 25 it is with my setup, which, among other things, uses a standalone minibuffer frame. That is not common for Emacs users. Likewise, the use of other features, such as Icicles. If this were something easily repeatable I would bisect my setup to narrow down a repro recipe. But it is not - there seems to be no clear relation between the crash and something particular that I do. I really don't have the time to look into this now. I have spent some time in the past looking into it, but evidently not enough to learn anything helpful about this. I was hoping that the emacs_backtrace.txt files would provide some help, but apparently they are useless. I apparently downloaded a version of GDB in 2015, but I don't recall from where. There is a gdb.exe, but if I double-click that to run it I just get a message that guile.exe has stopped working, plus these messages: Throw without catch before boot: Throw to key misc-error with args ("primitive-load-path" "Unable to find file ~S in load path" ("ice-9/boot-9") #f)Aborting. This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more information. If you send me some instructions that tell me (1) where to get a Windows 64-bit (or 32-bit?) binary GDB, (2) how to run Emacs under it, to obtain the info you need, I will try to take a look when I get some time. Sorry for the trouble.