From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26102: movemail can't connect mail server Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:30:44 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <76a96737-f780-00a2-9fd4-70c0e95f0101@cs.ucla.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1489599075 5372 195.159.176.226 (15 Mar 2017 17:31:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 17:31:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Cc: hengaini2055@qq.com, 26102@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 15 18:31:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coClO-0000VJ-3V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:31:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38754 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coClU-0004w5-2D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:31:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43000) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coClO-0004w0-5W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coClL-0003Xj-2A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59232) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coClK-0003XD-Uh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coClK-0001VL-Gu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:31:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 17:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26102 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 26102-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26102.14895990605775 (code B ref 26102); Wed, 15 Mar 2017 17:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26102) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2017 17:31:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57431 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coClH-0001V5-Q5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:52928) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coClF-0001Uq-Iy for 26102@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:30:58 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CCA1600C0; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 7uqPLvezXJJ3; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33191600C2; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:30:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id RXDqxHhtJQPO; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D88DA1600C0; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:30:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130620 Archived-At: > I'm guessing that you > are using port 995 because your POP server requires SSL/TLS > connections, in which case that's another problem: movemail that comes > with Emacs doesn't support such connections. How about if we change Emacs so that it relies on GNU Mailutils movemail, instead of installing its own movemail? This should help prevent similar problems in the future, and should simplify Emacs maintenance a bit. These days it's almost malpractice to ship a mail client that supports only unencrypted network connections.