From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer? 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Tue, 05 May 2020 17:48:46 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 045Hke7l072929; Tue, 5 May 2020 17:46:45 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 30sjk0782g-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 05 May 2020 17:46:45 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 045HkhYj029324; Tue, 5 May 2020 17:46:43 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83bln2mpf8.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4993.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9612 signatures=668687 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2003020000 definitions=main-2005050135 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9612 signatures=668687 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 priorityscore=1501 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 impostorscore=0 malwarescore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2003020000 definitions=main-2005050135 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179752 Archived-At: > > But yes, I don't want minibuffer-message replacing > > message whenever the minibuffer is active, etc. I > > want the echo area as it was and minibuffer-message > > and message as they were. >=20 > These two sentences seem to contradict each other. The first says > that you want the new feature in Emacs 27, the second says that you > don't want it. No, they both say I don't want it. I want the previous behavior, not the new behavior. No automatic conversion of `message' to `minibuffer-message' just because the minibuffer is active [1st sentence]. Echo area as it was before, minibuffer as it was before, `message' and `minibuffer-message' as they were before [2nd sentence].