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Fri, 22 Dec 2017 18:44:07 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0016.oracle.com (abhmp0016.oracle.com [141.146.116.22]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id vBMIi55M025451; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 18:44:06 GMT In-Reply-To: <5A3D4775.2010700@gmx.at> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4627.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8753 signatures=668650 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=769 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1711220000 definitions=main-1712220281 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141392 Archived-At: > > In any case, it seems to have no effect, AFAICT, on a standalone > > minibuffer frame (i.e., on an echo area in such a frame). The doc > > says nothing about this.. >=20 > I believe we also nowhere say that we do not resize minibuffer/echo > areas on stand-alone minibuffer frames. I believe so too. > So the question to be > answered first is: Do we ever want to fit stand-alone minibuffer > frames to their buffers? Please don't bother for me, anyway. ;-) > If so, then we can decide whether we want > `tooltip-resize-echo-area' to affect resizing stand-alone minibuffer > frames as well and probably also whether showing a tooltip should > autoraise the minibuffer frame. Again, speaking for myself, I don't need any of that. The bug report was really to suggest that such doc about resizing the space for the minibuffer / echo area should not lead people to believe that such resizing resizes a frame. It applies only to a window in a frame that is not minibuffer-only (AFAICT), so that should be made clear. > But the first question that comes to my mind is why we now have the > option `tooltip-resize-echo-area' which, according to its doc-string > "has effect only on GUI frames" while in Emacs 24.1 we have declared > `tooltip-use-echo-area' obsolete and suggested to disable tooltips > instead. 1. No idea why we now have it. 2. The doc string is wrong to refer to `tooltip-use-echo-area'. > Resolved that, we should probably then also say that > `tooltip-resize-echo-area' has effect iff `resize-mini-windows' is > non-nil. And why isn't `resize-mini-windows' enough? Is this about resizing ONLY the echo area and not the minibuffer? (Does that even make sense?) It's all unclear to me.