bug#62486: "--without-x" is ignored when "--with-x-toolkit=no"

bug#62486: "--without-x" is ignored when "--with-x-toolkit=no"

[c.buhtz]

This is about building Emacs29.

I did someting like this

     make configure="--with-x-toolkit=no"

You see the "no"? No matter of that the configure output tells me it is 
build with X support.

I tried

     make configure="--with-x-toolkit=no --without-x"

Again X11 support enabled.

Then this is the only thing that works.

     make configure="--without-x"

No X11 support.

Not sure what happend here. Something interfered.

It is not well described in the docs how this switches work. I looked 
into INSTALL, INSTALL.REPO and ./configure --help

bug#62486: Acknowledgement ("--without-x" is ignored when "--with-x-toolkit=no")

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bug#62486: Acknowledgement ("--without-x" is ignored when "--with-x-toolkit=no")

[Jean Louis]

* GNU bug Tracking System <help-debbugs@gnu.org> [2023-03-27 19:06]:
> Thank you for filing a new bug report with debbugs.gnu.org.
> 62486: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=62486

All of these bugs:
https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=bug-gnu-emacs%40gnu.org

I have received like it was me who filed them.

That is strange. Maybe there is some mail filter rule, or maybe
somebody used my e-mail address in some way so that I get those
reports like I filed them.

Something is anyway wrong, as on the page it says:

bugs submitted by bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org

But I do not believe that e-mail address belongs to submitter.

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bug#62486: "--without-x" is ignored when "--with-x-toolkit=no"

[Gregory Heytings]

>
> make configure="--with-x-toolkit=no"
>
> You see the "no"? No matter of that the configure output tells me it is 
> build with X support.
>

That's a bit counter-intuitive, indeed, but building Emacs with 
"--with-x-toolkit=no" means that you ask a "no toolkit" built, in which 
Emacs does not depend on an external toolkit (GTK or Lucid) to draw its 
menu, toolbar and scrollbars.  That's different from a toolkit "without 
X".

This is not a bug.  Closing.

bug#62486: "--without-x" is ignored when "--with-x-toolkit=no"

[Gregory Heytings]

>> make configure="--with-x-toolkit=no"
>> 
>> You see the "no"? No matter of that the configure output tells me it is 
>> build with X support.
>
> That's a bit counter-intuitive, indeed, but building Emacs with 
> "--with-x-toolkit=no" means that you ask a "no toolkit" built, in which 
> Emacs does not depend on an external toolkit (GTK or Lucid) to draw its 
> menu, toolbar and scrollbars.  That's different from a toolkit "without 
> X".
>
> This is not a bug.  Closing.
>

By the way, please consider asking questions on help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org 
before filing bug reports.

bug#62486: "--without-x" is ignored when "--with-x-toolkit=no"

[c.buhtz]

Am 27.03.2023 18:00 schrieb Gregory Heytings:
> By the way, please consider asking questions on help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> before filing bug reports.

It wasn't a question but a bug report about potential to improve 
documentation.

bug#62486: closed (Re: bug#62486: "--without-x" is ignored when "--with-x-toolkit=no")

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#62486: "--without-x" is ignored when "--with-x-toolkit=no"

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From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
To: 62486-done@debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: c.buhtz@posteo.jp
Subject: Re: bug#62486: "--without-x" is ignored when "--with-x-toolkit=no"
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:57:34 +0000
Message-ID: <728618716bfcd3bce20d@heytings.org>


>
> make configure="--with-x-toolkit=no"
>
> You see the "no"? No matter of that the configure output tells me it is 
> build with X support.
>

That's a bit counter-intuitive, indeed, but building Emacs with 
"--with-x-toolkit=no" means that you ask a "no toolkit" built, in which 
Emacs does not depend on an external toolkit (GTK or Lucid) to draw its 
menu, toolbar and scrollbars.  That's different from a toolkit "without 
X".

This is not a bug.  Closing.



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From: c.buhtz@posteo.jp
To: Bug gnu emacs <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: "--without-x" is ignored when "--with-x-toolkit=no"
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 13:48:12 +0000
Message-ID: <75f2e3e989603a18dbf5a1473549643a@posteo.de>

This is about building Emacs29.

I did someting like this

     make configure="--with-x-toolkit=no"

You see the "no"? No matter of that the configure output tells me it is 
build with X support.

I tried

     make configure="--with-x-toolkit=no --without-x"

Again X11 support enabled.

Then this is the only thing that works.

     make configure="--without-x"

No X11 support.

Not sure what happend here. Something interfered.

It is not well described in the docs how this switches work. I looked 
into INSTALL, INSTALL.REPO and ./configure --help